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  1. #21
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    AmyNeudaiz's Avatar
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Excalibur
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    Let me clarify, let her do the heals but you actively do her abilities for her. I worded that terribly
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    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Let me clarify, let her do the heals but you actively do her abilities for her. I worded that terribly
    Same situation. If she's using Embrace on her own, it's only going to come once every like 10 seconds. It can be fired off three times in that time if you manually override her.
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    Horaiyo Shirou
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    So do most people put selene in obey, macro embrace (or cast it yourself, whichever), and manually fire her buffs like before? I think my group is about to push me into sch to replace our old one who quit, and I've been wondering what the general consensus is on selene.
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  4. #24
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    Tandy's Avatar
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    Tandy Thorne
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I tend to use Selene when I am not worried about the fairy healing, and I let her have her way....since now she rotates the buffs like magic I of course only use her though when I dont need or want Eos for healing. If I feel like I must have her buffs and her healing both, I will micro her just like before the update and rotate the buffs myself (even though I always hate doing that).

    With Eos, I always, and I mean always keep her under control. I have a Logitech G13 I use for all my keybinding, and I have Embrace right along side the rest of my heals. Coupled with mouseover macros for my stuff I can split healing when needed, or fire off her heal when needed on my target. If you dont use Rouse with WD, you should. It makes it much easier to deal with getting a group back up fast.

    A good or bad scholar is super easy to spot imo. If a fight starts with Eos blowing every cooldown off the bat....its usually a bad scholar. I know that might upset some people who refuse to micro manage her, but it really boils down to the fact if you use her correctly your a way more powerful healer than if you let her run wild. Yes she will cast her heals on people when they get low, but she wont top anyone off, and lets face it... if someone is just a little bit hurt the fairy heal is perfect to top them off with, and its free!
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    Last edited by Tandy; 02-04-2014 at 02:04 AM.

  5. #25
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    shadowrell_d-_-b's Avatar
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    S'niryn Knala
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    this will make your life much easier as a SCH! (your welcome in advance)

    /Micon "Obey" pet "Eos"
    /tenemy
    /pac "Obey" <t>
    /wait
    /pac "heel" <me>

    this is my one stop press to set my fairy (EOS and Selene) to obey and heel without even moving or targeting an enemy manually!
    simply summon and tap this macro and your fairy will be at your command and follow you where ever you may go!
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    -By the light of the crystal-

  6. #26
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    Avette's Avatar
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    Avette Lepaix
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    For players trying to link Embrace to your other heal simultaneously, there are two things that complicate what you're trying to do:

    1) At 80% health, any player will trigger an auto-heal from the fairy. Your macro will be unsuccessful while a cast is already active.

    2) The ratio of player to fairy heal frequency is 3:2, and variance in spell speed will not change that significantly. In other words, you will never get more than 2 Embraces for every 3 physick/adlo.

    TL;DR: Don't assume you will always get an Embrace to stack with your current heal on the same target.
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  7. #27
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    Horaiyo Shirou
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I only ask because I pretty much exclusively use selene now, and having to manually fire the skill buffs would conflict with macro’ing embrace to physick/whatever else (if I understand it right anyway). I’m just curious how other sch handle selene, since frankly it doesn’t seem to really hinder me much to just leave her on sic.
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  8. #28
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by horaiyo View Post
    So do most people put selene in obey, macro embrace (or cast it yourself, whichever), and manually fire her buffs like before? I think my group is about to push me into sch to replace our old one who quit, and I've been wondering what the general consensus is on selene.
    Selene: I almost always keep her in Sic. She uses her extra abilities intelligently enough and if I need the extra healing focus from a macro'd Embrace, then I can just switch to Obey or call Eos. Selene is my go-to fairy for most situations when I don't expect to need a lot of AoE healing (or just want to be lazy. :P)

    Eos: I always keep her in Obey. She does not use her extra abilities intelligently at all, so they need to be manually triggered. Rouse and Whispering Dawn have the same cool-down timer, so they're always up together. Fey Illumination has exactly double the cool-down timer, so it's always up every other Roused Whipsering Dawn for an additional 20% bonus. I either use Fey Covenant whenever the cool-down is up if magic damage in the fight is not intense or relatively constant, or I save it for when I know there's going to be a big AoE magic spike. Eos is my go-to fairy for when I know I'm going to need more healing, especially AoE.
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  9. #29
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    kukurumei's Avatar
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    All content can be made to fairy on sic, and really it depends if you can handle the OCD overload of having obey. Unlike a whm I usually stick close to the melees as a sch so sic eos/selene is still half decent, or placed correctly when needed. There is more then enough on the hotbar and CD management then trying to manual a fairy.

    It really depends on the heal style. Some sch spam phyick more often then not, and thus Eos becomes lean mean dps healing machine. Others like to make the fairy be the tank healer, while the sch heal dps.

    There are lots of ways to go about it. But fairy auto healing is pretty darn fast(it seems she's impervious to lag and stoppers aka gaul), and she will wiper dawn at a decent group rate.

    Until SE fixes the pet system, it's still a toss up how you play with your fairy. The macro only solves half the problems.
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 02-05-2014 at 01:18 AM.

  10. #30
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    Iymala Vayle
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 53
    I manually control both fairies and for Selene I keep both speed buffs macroed to the same button. That way which ever is not on CD will fire. This requires you to hit that button every 30sec to keep the buffs up, but it becomes a rhythm... reminds me of bards in other games in a way.

    Fairies being manually controlled to embrace is much more efficient than them casting it all willy nilly. Not only do they cast the heals faster if forced, but you can use them to heal people above the break point of when they would actually heal them themselves. In addition, a roused fairy casting embrace while you heal a tank can split your healing quite effectively when needed.
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