Manually using pet abilities?

[Pharazon]

Honestly, and I've said this before in another thread, the quick reaction time of your pets healing (not abilities though) is more of a boon than a liability. Let your pet heal for herself and just do her abilities.

this is just not the case though. the healing is triggered by an actual amount of health missing (15-20% iirc) and does not account for having a dot on the target or damage you know the target is about to take. Being able to have control over pre-casting as well as being able to make judgements about which of the two dps should receive healing first based on more factors like, probability of taking damage again in the next 5 seconds make micro-managing your pets embrace just as important if not more so than the others abilities.

[Kieren-Dohla]

I know you guys are talking about sch, but smn has a problem to. You should be able to set obey without having a target. It's ridiculous that you have to have a target before obey will work.

[DCILuther]

I wanted to start another thread but I'll ask here instead.

Is there a way to get:
/micon "Embrace"
/pac "Embrace" <mo> or <t> or <tt>
but with selene?

I tried adding pet "Selene" but that doesn't work

[Mhaeric]

I wanted to start another thread but I'll ask here instead.

Is there a way to get:
/micon "Embrace"
/pac "Embrace" <mo> or <t> or <tt>
but with selene?

I tried adding pet "Selene" but that doesn't work

This is a known bug on the PS3. Something to do with Eos' Embrace and Selene's Embrace being different skills with the same name, and the PS3 always trying to use Eos' version when macro'd. There is currently no work-around.

[AmyNeudaiz]

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I am just against putting her on steady and doing it 100% yourself. In cases where she is not healing and you want her to pre-cast or heal someone above her % you can still manually cast while she's idol. Though, she usually is always casting anyway, I mean really how often can you keep a whole party+tank above 15% anyway.

That said there are people with different play-styles so obviously the advice isn't for everyone but in my opinion steady is a worse option unless you need a specific ability to go off immediately (Fey Covenant for expected magic damage for example).

I know you guys are talking about sch, but smn has a problem to. You should be able to set obey without having a target. It's ridiculous that you have to have a target before obey will work.

I really hate this too. I don't know why they did this...

[xEscaflownex]

As for the Selene Embrace macro, Im on PC, so just doing /pac "Embrace" <t>/<tt>/etc works for both, a PS3 user in my FC said using /pac "Embrace" Pet Selene <t>/<tt>/etc worked for him.

As for the overall "argument", I have Embrace macroed to <t> on pretty much every ability, Physick/Adlo/Succor/Leeches/Eye for an Eye/Lustrate/Sacred Soil/etc, that way regardless of what im doing, whether shielded the group, removing a debuff, applying a buff, my pet is healing my target, while I potentially am not.

I prefer to double up heals rather than split them for the simple reason that at my current ilvl, my Physicks land for 1k+, and Embrace land for 600+, thus, my Physick/Embrace land together for 1600+...none buffed, none crit, Rouse brings Embrace to 1k+, so that brings your double heal to 2k+, when you or pet, let alone both, crit...your practicaly tossing out benedictions.

My WHM (same ilvl) cure IIs land for 1500~.

Thus, by having embrace land with your heals, your physicks hit for more than WHM cure II, for half the MP cost, Adlos land for 750~ non crit, combine with embrace that's a 1300+ heal, in addition to shield.

I find this excellent for Tank healing, ez mode.

As far as splitting my heal and pet heal on 2 targets, I have never encountered a situation where I have felt the want or need to do this, if I have to switch from tank to another party member to heal them, I just shield tank and then double heal that person (if Im switching from tank to heal someone, ie, they cant be topped off by succor, whispering wind, or whm aoe healing, they probably took a lot more then 600 dmg, and I would want to land a 1600+ heal on them anyway).

And as far as letting pet heal on its own, it will only heal them at 80% or less, and then only for 600ish, which isn't going to top them off, and then it wont heal them again till they hit 80% or less again, etc etc.

To each their own, but I find throwing out endless cure II+'s all day wherever I want to be optimal for me. And as someone who also plays PLD/WAR quite a bit, I notice the, IMO, crappy healing I receive from a SCH who doesn't do what I do. For example, Ultima, and all the many many times ive died as tank because of inadequate heals, I can see when I got a whole fight without ever receiving an embrace lol, vs when Im healing the fight and the tanks are always topped off.

And finally, as for the not being able to control your pets without having a target...what do you need to do with them when you don't have a target lol, its pretty much a non issue, before fight starts, put them in obey, good to go, if theres no fight/target, what do you need it on obey for?

[Pharazon]

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The biggest problem with embrace isn't the fairy not always casting, but rather that they don't know how to make good decisions. For example lets say someone missed a high voltage on turn 2 on the nodes leading up to ADS and everyone took damage and got the paralyze debuff. Your pet is going to treat everyone as a number and make a decision not based on the same things that you will. Healing the melee in this case is far more important than healing the ranged because of other aoe's that they will have to dodge. You don't have to put your pet on steady, though there are situations where that is helpful from an aggro standpoint, but scholars looking to move into harder and harder content need to understand the importance of micro managing their pet.

I mainly picked your post because it originally could be taken that you didn't need to help your pet at all which in harder content is not the case. But my post sounded a bit like you always needed to, when I was really just wanting to emphasize that you needed to during harder content. I hope this helps clear up what I was trying to say before.


--Happy Healing

[AmyNeudaiz]

I see what you're saying, and yes it is important to micro manage your pet, but I hear some Scholars use steady to have 100% control and I find that to be a waste and bad advice. That's all I'm saying. By all means macro embrace to your heals, just don't prevent her from doing her thing, IMO.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

Honestly, and I've said this before in another thread, the quick reaction time of your pets healing (not abilities though) is more of a boon than a liability. Let your pet heal for herself and just do her abilities.

Yeah, waste your pet abilities in times where u don't need'em, macro the abilities to your skills, its simple, just read what does iy do each ability and try to.combine it to your skills

[Zaft]

Honestly, and I've said this before in another thread, the quick reaction time of your pets healing (not abilities though) is more of a boon than a liability. Let your pet heal for herself and just do her abilities.

Absolutely not. She has quick reaction, sure, but she heals only once every few seconds. You want to have her on Obey so that she will be healing non-stop. She's essentially a powerful single-target Regen that should be healing whether the person is at 10% HP or 100% HP to help snipe incoming damage.

Mke a mouse over macro for Embrace, put her on Obey, and go to town.