It's become a chore to even log on to the game

[Mihael_Longclaw]

No, no you didn't. Complaining about stuff and saying 'but this way is better because I like it more!' isn't saying how you would 'fix' it.

I kinda did, I think on Page 9?

[Amyas]

I kinda did, I think on Page 9?

By all means, spell it out here how you would 'fix' what the devs couldn't without essentially scrapping the game as is and prevent situations where class stacking blackmages wouldn't be the smartest way to go.

Yeah... /tenchar

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Yeah... /tenchar

Scrapping the entire game AKA A Realm Reborn is entirely different from scrapping a flawed and entirely non-essential feature.

[Amyas]

Scrapping the entire game AKA A Realm Reborn is entirely different from scrapping a flawed and entirely non-essential feature.

Your little list of 'examples' on page 9 was just a wishlist of how you want to revamp all the jobs and gameplay to suit your tastes. I like my blackmage as is tyvm, why should I have to relearn it because you don't think of it as an 'essential feature' and think its 'flawed'? That sounds a bit like you're spitting in the dev's faces there.

You want a different game, just admit it already and leave. See you when 2.2 drops though I'm sure.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Your little list of 'examples' on page 9 was just a wishlist of how you want to revamp all the jobs and gameplay to suit your tastes. I like my blackmage as is tyvm, why should I have to relearn it because you don't think of it as an 'essential feature' and think its 'flawed'? That sounds a bit like you're spitting in the dev's faces there.

You want a different game, just admit it already and leave. See you when 2.2 drops though I'm sure.

You're right I DO want a different game, I'm sure you did as well, or was the game launch just how you wanted the game to be? I don't know how you came to the conclusion I want to scrap the game that's completely unreasonable and I just don't want it to happen to begin with.
I have left, I've said this multiple times, I don't know why that's so confusing for you.



Edit: Amyas makes my brain hurt

But indeed! You won! You got me to admit something I've been saying this entire thread, good job!

[Amyas]

Edit: Amyas makes my brain hurt

People starting threads in forums for games they don't even like, or play, or even care about unless their demands are met makes my head hurt.

[JanVanding]

People starting threads in forums for games they don't even like, or play, or even care about unless their demands are met makes my head hurt.

I find this counter-productive, Mihael simply put down thoughts into word in a hope that some of those thoughts are shared (it's clear by the number of likes and other posters that they ARE shared). There is a huge difference between going:

"This games bad, you should all feel bad for playing it"

And

"I feel this game has potential, but I'm not enjoying it because..."

Constructive critism, it's what the MMO industry has been crying out for, it's why they put questionaires in subscription cancellation and why they are encouraging people to come forward and explain why they are unhappy. They are trying to put a halt to the Revolving door that is the Modern MMO and being critical of people voicing their opinion? That isn't helping the problem, only adding to it by making less want to come forward.

There is an old saying in retail "For every customer that leaves while voicing their dislike, ten more just left quietly" remember, MMOs are still very much part of that same retail industry model.

Edit: Mattia I'll have to take your word for it as I was probably back in my hardcore raiding days when the FFXI expansions came out (one of the few MMO's I never played)

[Mihael_Longclaw]

People starting threads in forums for games they don't even like, or play, or even care about unless their demands are met makes my head hurt.

Gah, 20 post limit

I wouldn't be on these forums, or even making these posts if I haven't "played the game, like or cared about it" that's exactly why I'm here.

I think you mistake me not having to pay for content I don't enjoy fully, & somehow making these demands.

I want to see changes to the game, so do many others according to this thread.

Lastly, why don't you address the rest of my posts? The parts that discredit most of what you just said.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

I'm all for some intelligent discussion, but when people make up quotes for you and start taking your quotes out of context it gets out of hand.