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    I guess this song is more appropriate for the mood of this post?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgbrT...eature=related

    i think this is my last post.. no point trying to explain to these people the reason for the suggestion.. they refuse to hear. Fight Fight Fight FIght Fight Fight FIght Fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Morticous - Senior admin of.... well of nothing. (cool picture here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    . . .Are you at all familiar with the saying I'm using? Or is this just a case of obfuscating stupidity?
    I understand the saying you just used it wrong... do you understand what a pontificating dildo is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    A duck is a waterbird with a broad blunt bill, short legs, webbed feet, and a waddling gait.

    can not also be referred by any other word unless you are specifying species.
    You sure? 'Cause you just called it a waterbird. You could also have just called it a bird. Those're both other words that can refer to a duck, without specifying a species.

    I'm also curious how an inanimate object can pontificate, but that's a topic for a different discussion, I guess. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    You sure? 'Cause you just called it a waterbird. You could also have just called it a bird. Those're both other words that can refer to a duck, without specifying a species.

    I'm also curious how an inanimate object can pontificate, but that's a topic for a different discussion, I guess. . .
    I know this rarely happens on the forums but you sir are right and i was wrong your analogy applies, and my grammar was atrocious (partly rushed/agitated). However i still do not agree with only calling something by one definition if there is another that can be used and one has a negative stigma attached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    I know this rarely happens on the forums but you sir are right and i was wrong your analogy applies, and my grammar was atrocious (partly rushed/agitated). However i still do not agree with only calling something by one definition if there is another that can be used and one has a negative stigma attached.
    That's. . . totally not how I expected that to play out. I'm always surprised when an argument somewhat abruptly ends. >_>

    Anyway, I see your point, I just disagree that there is/should be a stigma attached.

    ETA: Also, now I'm stuck reading TV Tropes for the forseeable future. Why did I link to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    That's. . . totally not how I expected that to play out. I'm always surprised when an argument somewhat abruptly ends. >_>

    Anyway, I see your point, I just disagree that there is/should be a stigma attached.

    ETA: Also, now I'm stuck reading TV Tropes for the forseeable future. Why did I link to that?
    Yeah i get carried away and competitive from time too time, however i do attempt to own up to my faults when needed.

    "I just disagree that there is/should be a stigma attached." There should never be stigmas, they are just developed over time much like the negative stigmas attached to hardcore and casual these days. You can argue if they exist or not, but they are there plain as day when you look at posts.

    If your into TV Tropes then you would pry enjoy the read on labeling theory the original is very lengthy. I wish i still had access to my colleges scholarly journal web link ><
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    Last edited by Bled; 06-25-2011 at 01:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    Ignorance is a state of being uninformed, are you sure you chose the right word because i do not see how being miss informed applies to wanting a name changed...? We were informed of the name and now we are asking for it to be more closely tied to lore, sounds like a pretty informed request to me... and i do not understand your proclamation that we need to read, read what?
    I'm pretty sure I know what ignorance is. Please don't try to patronize someone if you can't understand the context of my comment.
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    I have to agree with the original post,

    I absolutely hate all these "WOW" terms infesting the MMO world.

    My biggest gripe is the LFG its LFP LFP!!!!!!

    LOOKING FOR PARTY !!!

    But in general what I hate most is the amount of people who complain about the R25 and rank R45 upcoming content saying "how can you say a r**d is 4 or 8 members"

    I know WOW was popular and I know a lot of people have come from a WOW or similar background.

    But please open your mind and embrace final fantasy and quite rightly the thoughts and opinions of players from XI there wouldnt be a XIV without a XI so just take on board the views of your Final Fantasy MMO seniors.
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    FFXI was for the majority of its players the first MMO they had ever played, sucked in to try them by the FF7-FF8 games. As such they didn't come in with all the terminology and knowledge from other MMOs. FFXIV is different, all the players it has have played MMOs before and the huge pulling games like 7-8 don't exist for the new generation.

    As such this game is filled with MMO players, many from XI (that played wow too). You just won't re-create FFXI, its ideals or community on any other game, that's why everyone uses these terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasagawa View Post
    I have to agree with the original post,

    I absolutely hate all these "WOW" terms infesting the MMO world.

    My biggest gripe is the LFG its LFP LFP!!!!!!

    LOOKING FOR PARTY !!!

    But in general what I hate most is the amount of people who complain about the R25 and rank R45 upcoming content saying "how can you say a r**d is 4 or 8 members"

    I know WOW was popular and I know a lot of people have come from a WOW or similar background.

    But please open your mind and embrace final fantasy and quite rightly the thoughts and opinions of players from XI there wouldnt be a XIV without a XI so just take on board the views of your Final Fantasy MMO seniors.
    See... Didn't I mention some people didn't get the message :P
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