Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
Well first paragraph was completely unnecessary, seeing as i never claimed that FFXIV did not have ZERG content. ZERG content is ZERG content its in many games i never attached the two terms to FFXIV and WoW for comparison to make the point that the stigma exists, you attempted to put those words in my mouth through an assumption.

Raid just reminds me of the same old song and dance, ZERG and LOOT at the end, nothing sad about that, like i have stated and you have ignored if the term "raid" stays i ultimately don't care, i would just prefer something more creative in the end.

You say raid was rarely used.
-your word against mine-
I say i herd it all the time.

And i had plenty of experience in WoW, so your last claim is completely baseless and falls apart, seeing as your assuming Im an outsider to the game which i was not.
I'm not ignoring the part where you say you "don't care." I am, however, focusing on the part that always follows, where you say you hope they use "something more creative." I do consider your association of the word "raid" with Zerg->loot to be sad, though. Just a difference of opinion, I suppose.

I could be mis-remembering how often it was used. Obviously, I don't think I am, but, hey, human memory sucks. We could both be exaggerating our respective sides, and there'd be almost no way to tell. I will continue to assert, though, that it was used much more towards outsiders than it was towards other players.

Now, on to your first paragraph. . .

Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
The term "raid" is not owned by WoW and if it is truly a raid then great call it that what ever, I'm just shocked at the people who play Final Fantasy's and do not care about the lore attached to the content.

Part of the WoW disease if you ask me ZERG content for LOOTS, and who gives a flying fu** about the immersion, plot, world and community.
Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
If by definition all we are doing is raiding them fine if the definition fits use it, however i feel that raid is a common stigma within the community for ZERG and loot.
Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
The word has a stigma attached, it is not attached to the game itself i hope that clears this up for you.
So, to be clear, you associate WoW with Zerg->loot, yet you claim that you never attached the terms to WoW. You then argue that XIV shouldn't have “raids” because that somehow also implies Zerg->loot. I fail to see how I'm putting words into your mouth at this point. You clearly say that “WoW disease” is Zerg->loot, and that FFXIV shouldn't have anything that's Zerg->loot. The fact is, I've already done more zerging in FFXIV than I ever did in WoW, so I don't see why we shouldn't have raids; especially since, and I hope you agree to this, raid doesn't really mean Zerg->loot. People just think it does.