'Raids', really?

[Viridiana]

well raid is a WoW term but is not synonyms to WoW alone... you need to think before you post i never claimed that WoW owned the word.

But you did say that you thought "ignorance" was a poor choice of wording. To back this up, you said that people were making informed choices based on the word being attached to the content. The fact that others (not you, personally) are asserting that 'raid' is a WoW term means that they're making this claim out of ignorance.

I was just pointing this out to you, not claiming that you ever asserted that raid is a WoW term. Therefore, your response rather misses the mark, no?

[Bled]

But. . . calling it a raid doesn't in any way limit your choices as far as filling out the lore. You can have oodles and oodles of lore and still call it a raid. There's literally nothing saying that the two states are mutually exclusive.

If by definition all we are doing is raiding them fine if the definition fits use it, however i feel that raid is a common stigma within the community for ZERG and loot.

[Wolfie]

Some are upset more then others on the name change, but rather you choose to selectively choose the few people in this thread who raged and refer to the thread as a whole raging about the term "raid". I could truly care less what ultimately the name ends up being, however i would prefer a more lore filled term and definition for our instances. The term "raid" is not owned by WoW and if it is truly a raid then great call it that what ever, I'm just shocked at the people who play Final Fantasy's and do not care about the lore attached to the content.

Part of the WoW disease if you ask me ZERG content for LOOTS, and who gives a flying fu** about the immersion, plot, world and community.

No, I care deeply about the lore and I've posted about my disappointment in how lackluster the quests, leves, and other content is in this game. But that has nothing to do with a gaming term you use to describe a particular action or concept. FF does NOT need to come up with new names for every single gaming concept in order to have good lore. I mean, they used the word "quests" for quests. Why isn't that such a huge travesty?

Yes, I agree with your thoughts on the WOW disease. How is that in any way related to the terminology used?

[Morticous]

Its simple guys, you might not mind the word and the word Raid may not even remind you of Wow however it does remind (Clearly) plenty of others of WOw. From here some people have good thoughts and bad thoughts of wow... Its simple, Wow is so big that it might as well own the word because plenty of people who don't know about the other games you are referring to but do know wow are going to immediately think of Wow and that could be a good or a bad thing.. its that simple.. people would simply prefer it have a more creative name, whats wrong with that (at least thats the way I feel about it)?

[Bled]

But you did say that you thought "ignorance" was a poor choice of wording. To back this up, you said that people were making informed choices based on the word being attached to the content. The fact that others (not you, personally) are asserting that 'raid' is a WoW term means that they're making this claim out of ignorance.

I was just pointing this out to you, not claiming that you ever asserted that raid is a WoW term. Therefore, your response rather misses the mark, no?

The word has a stigma attached, it is not attached to the game itself i hope that clears this up for you.

[Wolfie]

The word has a stigma attached, it is not attached to the game itself i hope that clears this up for you.

And I'm here arguing, that the stigma is baseless and potentially harmful to the game's evolution, in hopes that people stop having knee-jerk reactions and take a step back and think critically and objectively for a moment.

[Morticous]

Put it this way... Imagine youve had a girlfriend (ha, imagine) and her name was Sarah and she cheated on you with 50 other dudes, stole all your shit, and then dumped you.... THere have been millions of sarahs before her who are nice and you may simple have never even met.. but from now on any time you hear the name sarah your going to be haunted.. now imagine if your forced to play a game where the main characters name is sarah... WOuldnt that be miserable? Having to be reminded of such horrid events.

[Wolfie]

Put it this way... Imagine youve had a girlfriend (ha, imagine) and her name was Sarah and she cheated on you with 50 other dudes, stole all your shit, and then dumped you.... THere have been millions of sarahs before her who are nice and you may simple have never even met.. but from now on any time you hear the name sarah your going to be haunted.. now imagine if your forced to play a game where the main characters name is sarah... WOuldnt that be miserable? Having to be reminded of such horrid events.

No, because I'm smart enough to know that any future Sarahs i encounter and/or date are different people.

[Morticous]

No, because I'm smart enough to know that any future Sarahs i encounter and/or date are different people.

The point is it still reminds you of the sarah you've had a bad relationship with no? Your ok with being constantly remind of bad experiences?

[Bled]

And I'm here arguing, that the stigma is baseless and potentially harmful to the game's evolution, in hopes that people stop having knee-jerk reactions and take a step back and think critically and objectively for a moment.

what you call baseless closely relates to labeling theory in my eyes. Words have stigmas attached to them that cause them to develop preconceived notions. It is not difficult to come up with a easy creative and definitively correct term for these instances, if SE chooses to name it "raid" w/e i just want people to stop flaming with the statement "What you want it pointless and I think the game needs ______ because that's more important".

whats worse requesting a name change that is as you call it "pointless"
-or-
Flaming said topic that you think is "pointless"....