'Raids', really?

[BloodMage]

I'm really hoping that they're calling it "raid" just for common terminology. It would be great if they call it something interesting and unique from other mmos. Maybe "Aetheryte Trial" or "Eorzean Nightmare."

Also I hope they do something different in them unlike the generic run through the dungeon and kill stuff, get items.

Epic boss fights in the end should be epic-er as well

[Zantetsuken]

I think the point is, do we really want FFXIV to not just adopt every generic MMO mechanic out there, but the generic MMO branding as well?

I've always held this series to a higher standard.

I hope they do something different in them unlike the generic run through the dungeon and kill stuff, get items.

From the looks of it, the boss fights are going to have a bit of depth to them...

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Precisely! I am glad that at least one person understand what I'm talking about.
Yes, exactly, do we really want another copy-paste mmo that will fizzle in a year or two? Or something fantastic like XI that will last for many years.

I am hoping that the term used is to just get across the point that that's what it is, a dungeon crawl with a boss, and that for future instalments including those that are storyline related will have a better title that can be used in conversation and not all content will be summed up by one four letter word.

[Morticous]

You still havn't put up the mosh fail pic as your sig gath!

Even though other games call them raids its still going to go back to WOw and people are going to say... Oooh.. just another Wow clone.. Lets give it them a creative name like.. "Sdiar Runs"

For the record I dont care for Wow either.. It attracts some of the most Moronic people in the entire world (most of them i think )..

[Cichy]

Precisely! I am glad that at least one person understand what I'm talking about.
Yes, exactly, do we really want another copy-paste mmo that will fizzle in a year or two? Or something fantastic like XI that will last for many years.

I am hoping that the term used is to just get across the point that that's what it is, a dungeon crawl with a boss, and that for future instalments including those that are storyline related will have a better title that can be used in conversation and not all content will be summed up by one four letter word.

XI lasted for many years but it was far from fantastic gameplay. That age has past and gone and no XI clone will ever be successful again because that type of a game does not appeal to anyone else but people who hold some kind of sentiment for it and that's a minority. XI was terribly managed also and this game will go nowhere from the same type of attitude.

[Joeking]

XIV is copying and stealing features from other games but implementing them wrong, while Blizzard does it right. Almost nothing can be called new or revolutionary, most things have been done.

This is the difference between them, and why WoW has its 11 Million+ subscribers.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Not if they intend to copy it no, but there's more to XI than just the battle system and how easy that is to forget when that's all anyone ever manages to talk about. The storyline, the difference in campaigns, including reward, reputation, and questing and how everything came together in the end.

Those are all things XIV could benefit from by implementing them instead of using these apparent 'new age' mmo tactics of quest grind > instance > instant reward.

Every time I hear such comments about XI being dead and gone makes me wonder if anyone's actually reading these posts. You can separate XI's gameplay from the content, you know? it was beautiful, engaging, and involved. Don't tell me that game developers are too lazy these days to come up with a story to go along with a dungeon. If that's called "asking too much" then really, what the hell?

TL;DR
To reiterate, the request and longing is for any content to have at least a LITTLE depth to it, rather than be another boring copy+paste of previous content, and or content used in other MMO's.

FFS, there is nothing wrong with instanced material, the thing is like Zan's signature says, we'd like a little more FINAL FANTASY in our Final fantasy XIV.

[Cichy]

XIV is copying and stealing features from other games but implementing them wrong, while Blizzard does it right. Almost nothing can be called new or revolutionary, most things have been done.

This is the difference between them, and why WoW has its 11 Million+ subscribers.

It's like they are blind to what makes MMOs attractive to players

[Morticous]

Copy the other games but put the FF style on it please.. SE has to find that small thing that IS new and revolutionary to set them aside from the rest.

[Joeking]

we'd like a little more FINAL FANTASY in our Final fantasy XIV.

I don't how many times I've typed this but, again for you.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is gone, the final fantasy you and I know is dead.