Just out of curiousity, what is a better term for "Raid?" I like that XI didnt really have generic terms for content, but thats because most content wasn't alike. I also played LOTRO and from what I can remember we called instanced content either an instance, or most of the time by the areas name.

Are we going to say "we wiped to So-and-so" everytime we fail a "raid" too?

It just seems like FFXIV will lose some of its charm if everything because systematic and calculated like that.

Originally Posted by Scherwiz

Just out of curiousity, what is a better term for "Raid?" I like that XI didnt really have generic terms for content, but thats because most content wasn't alike. I also played LOTRO and from what I can remember we called instanced content either an instance, or most of the time by the areas name.

Speaking of which...

[Elezen Accent]

"You have entered an instance"

:gasp: an INSTANCE!?? surely this is the epitome of mediocrity. "Instance" is a pock mark that sticks out like a dead marmot! Doesn't SE know it must be ARTISTIC!??

I will not play such filth that would subject me to an "instance"! Let me out I say! I am an ADVENTURER! I will be restrained only by "Adventure"!

"You have entered an Adventure."

Much better! Surely this plays to the artistic quality of this fine articulate game! Now I can return to my behests, and Local leves, Notorious Monters a--:GASP!:

What in the Seven Hells is This!! "Quests"??! Its like my ears have been violated with such words!

"What are you doing right now?

"DDh"

"ahhh okay, good luck!"

nuff said.

Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly

Is this because the game itself lacks a solid cohesive story?

=(

i like the story...

What if they said 'panty raid'?

Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly

....Ok? Comment is so far off center it's no longer on the map. But thanks for playing.



Nice try at beating the beehive. I might put you in the blindly-devoted WoW-y pile based on your needless accusations along with Wolfie but seeing as I'm trying to avoid that cesspool, I'll give you a polite nod. Yes I might be biased, I'd go as far to say I'm personally largely biased, but as those have said before it is simply due to the fact that raid brings up a tireless thought of running a dungeon simply for drops, fanatics, a large amount of frustration and feeling of getting no-where and general "ugh"ness. While on the other hand I found XI's dungeons to be something to look forward to and a great achievement to unlock and never had been associated with one large blanket term. While Dynamis can be seen as an "Ugh, hell, don't talk about that piece of crap" at least it wasn't referred to by players along with everything else like Limbus or sky as something like 'raid' where afterwards all we're left with is a sour taste in our mouths.

Honestly, the one thing about WoW that bugged the absolute piss out of me was hearing every one of my friends who played use the term over and over referring to pretty much every dungeon ever and their evening activity. My God that's obnoxious, and it does bring up negative feelings. Clearly I'm not alone in this or you wouldn't be working so hard to piss us off.

So, I'll stop you two and your useless pandering and circlejerking, but you're absolutely wrong in thinking myself or anyone else is against blanket/MMO terms in general and are over-generalizing this thread to attempt to make us look sillier than we are. So unless you have anything more along the lines of constructive to add to the discussion take your trolling elsewhere. :3

Honestly, though, this part is so far off it's not even funny. The term "raid" wasn't used that often within the community. It was mostly a term used toward those outside the community, who would be lost otherwise.

"Let's start a group for Kara."
"Wonder if I can solo Ony with this setup. . ."
"Don't you still need a weapon from ZA?"
"Did you see the video of that mage solo'ing those Naxx bosses?"
"I just got attuned to MC."
"I've never done AQ before."

This is how WoW players actually talk to each other. Now, if I had to explain any of those sentences to someone who didn't play WoW, yes, I'd be using the **** out of the word "raid." The only reason you heard the word so, so much was because you didn't have the context necessary to use the more specific words.

On a related note, having never played XI, I still always understood Dynamis, Sky, et al to be raids, even though I can't recall anyone ever calling them such. A rose by any other name. . .

I blame Yoshi-P for mentioning the word raid...

Originally Posted by Morphemes

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i like the story...

What if they said 'panty raid'?

The story is excellent and getting better. D: But it's so spread out.

Why is there no CM response for this? I'm not looking to have my game turned into its garbage bland competitor. Diversified content named with care please.

Originally Posted by Coldbrand

Why is there no CM response for this? I'm not looking to have my game turned into its garbage bland competitor. Diversified content named with care please.

Just like WoW had?