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  1. #121
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    wannabesuperman's Avatar
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    Giacomo Cristoforo
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 50
    As a BRD, I love to see marked targets. It's very comforting to be able to plan ahead, but most of the time we can power through stuff without it.

    However, in DF Roulette, it becomes more important because there are more inexperienced players who need to know what is expected of them, and usually a nervous player makes more mistakes than a confident one.
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  2. #122
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    Zacban's Avatar
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    Azura De'tylmarande
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AliceVirgin View Post
    If a DPS is bad I just have them booted problem fixed you fail at your simple task then why should I waste my time with you. Its don't suck and waste my time and if people don't want to boot the bad DPS I just ask them to boot me ill get a new group almost instantly not going to bother dealing with people who cant do there jobs
    Look out people. We got a badass over here.

    Seriously. If I was grouped with you I would just make you leave on your own, so you would receive your 30 minute debuff. How's that for wasting time?. You're playing an online game with 600.000 subscribers in all age ranges. You can't seriously be expecting only to group with pros. And what you're propbaly failing to grasp is that your stuck-up opinion is making 3-7 other people waste their time, making you the a-hole your complaining about.

    As for marking. focusing one target at a time, and let the other mobs be victims on cleaving damage puts less strain on your healer. Less strain on your healers means fewer mana breaks. You can't SR categorize everything
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  3. #123
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    you can just mark it : First mob (no mark = assist) and then 2-3-4-last mob
    the mark make it easy for DD to do combo
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  4. #124
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    Kizuna Astin
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    If I ever mark mob at all, I only mark "1" on my current target and change my mark when mob nearly dead. imho, end game tank, marking is useless and not really prefer, since it better off to have your DPS and healer spaming AoE. (espcially SMN and BLM, a non-lazy healer will usually throw in aoe as well)
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  5. #125
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    Cassiel Erzengel
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zacban View Post
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    Lol Tanks and Healers get called Bad all the time and booted from the group because people cant clear the content with them if they suck.. Yet we are not allowed to boot out bad DPS that will slow down the game exp of those same Tanks and Healers once they master there craft..
    How can it be there is 1 set of rules for tanks and healers and another for DPS if a Tank or Healer sucks its ok to belittle them and kick them yet when you say the same about a DPS people act like the world is ending
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  6. #126
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    Azura De'tylmarande
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceVirgin View Post
    Lol Tanks and Healers get called Bad all the time and booted from the group because people cant clear the content with them if they suck.. Yet we are not allowed to boot out bad DPS that will slow down the game exp of those same Tanks and Healers once they master there craft..
    How can it be there is 1 set of rules for tanks and healers and another for DPS if a Tank or Healer sucks its ok to belittle them and kick them yet when you say the same about a DPS people act like the world is ending
    Sure.. if they're hindering your progress in the dungeon by all means kick them. But kicking them just because they don't live up to your standards is lame. Especially in low level roulette.
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  7. #127
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    Niamh Felixis
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AliceVirgin View Post
    Lol Tanks and Healers get called Bad all the time and booted from the group because people cant clear the content with them if they suck.. Yet we are not allowed to boot out bad DPS that will slow down the game exp of those same Tanks and Healers once they master there craft..
    Most of the time it's easier to deal with a bad dps. If they keep ignoring the marking or running off pulling stuff, tell the healer to let them die. It usually only takes that once for them to stop being dumb. Bad DPS issues in dungeons usually have quick fixes. A tank or healer who can't run properly is a major issue because they usually don't understand their class then.
    I still don't think kicking people is a good idea. If possible, try to help them. It's only the most belligerent of players who will screw things up for people and still not listen to advice.
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  8. #128
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    [QUOTE=Zacban;1960274]SnipQUOTE]
    Well if they are not meeting my standards isn't it are they not in turn hindering my progress if they are making it slow they are hindering my progress I get x amount of hours to play a day mainly 2 at most. I travel a lot for work so I don't get to play much why should I waste it with slow dps when those same DPS kicked me when I was leaening my Job?
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niamh_Felixis View Post
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    What im reading is its ok to keep a Bad DPS doing a horrid job dealing dmg because they can be carried threw the instant why should Tanks ever put up with it. they suck at DPS they should be booted if a Tank cant hold hate or a healer cant heal we all know its an auto boot because like you said we cant move forward im just holding the dps to the same standards they hold us...
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  10. #130
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    Niamh Felixis
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AliceVirgin View Post
    What im reading is its ok to keep a Bad DPS doing a horrid job dealing dmg because they can be carried threw the instant why should Tanks ever put up with it. they suck at DPS they should be booted if a Tank cant hold hate or a healer cant heal we all know its an auto boot because like you said we cant move forward im just holding the dps to the same standards they hold us...
    Lol, I'm not defending bad DPS; they should be held accountable. I'm just giving a reason for the double standard.

    If it's DF, then I don't try to hold people up to my expectations. I've never been kicked as a tank - even when I was learning. Maybe that's why I'm a little more forgiving towards crappy DPS. Maybe they're just not good at the game. Maybe they also only have a few hours to play and can't master the game. So what if you're carrying them a bit? Hopefully they're learning while it happens.

    If its T4 or Ex Primals, then sure, expect people to be on the ball. If it's Df or roulette then expect people to be casual players. A lot of people just do this for fun, you know?
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