Why mark targets?

[Viridiana]

You want people to read 19 pages before responding and then only respond if the thread was started within a specific time frame? These forums are slow enough as it is. Don't discourage posting.

I should clarify.

1) There's a difference between posting in an old but active thread and a necro. I mean, the Rotation Reborn thread has been active since launch, but I'm not gonna ask people not to post there. If the post dies for a month, though. . .

2) Very few people who responded to the thread (even when it was originally posted) actually bothered to read the OP and not just the title. I'm not necessarily asking people to read 5 pages (don't know how people can stand having it set to 10/page), but at least read the original post. . .

[Zoeila]

marking seems like it would be easier for kb mouse players.

[Fango]

in 8mans dps classes must know the kill order of things.
in 4 mans also, why have tank job do any marking when it's dps job to know kill order? tank's job is to hold hate on whole pack, if dps goes orange on enmity, dps switches target / uses cd lowering enmity. it's that simple really, don't blame tank for not doing dps job :P

[Coatl]

Hm marking is useful to coordinate dps, but most of them should have the /assist macro which targets a targets target by the time tanks get around to marking.

[Coth_X]

Hm marking is useful to coordinate dps, but most of them should have the /assist macro which targets a targets target by the time tanks get around to marking.

You could just hit T, since that is defaulted to targeting target's target.

But marking means dps don't have to wait in order to be sure which target they should focus down first.

[Dixon]

Lesson: Some people are just impatient bags of dicks whom take this game way too seriously and are too arrogant to take into consideration that someone in the party may be new, or even have done the same duty but with a totally different strategy/approach than what they would like to do.

Its' not your fault. They are blaming you for their own lack of foresight and consideration.

[Alenore]

As a dragoon, I dot targets.

But...
I do so after my first heavy thrust (+15% damages), then use ID/Dis/CT on the target, Phlebotomize... Here, 5 skills used on one target. Then I use ID on the same one, and switch the other for Dis/CT/Phlebotomize. So now I have two targets with all the dots I can apply, and have to pick one to DPS... That's what the mark is for. Markings is also used to know if I should reapply dots on that target when it's about to wear off or if we're going to kill it very soon, and thus simply combo because Phle or ID/Dis/CT won't be as efficient as TT/VT/FT.


But I guess bad tank is bad.

[Feylie]

But I guess bad tank is bad.

Bad tank is bad because of no mark, huh?

I don't mark anything because no one can pull off me. You can focus whatever you want after you DoT everything, none of the enemies in any 4man dungeon do damage to me unless I literally pull everything. Healers that don't DPS quickly learn that they should, because they will get bored with the damage I'm not taking.

In my eyes, Tanks that mark require them so that they don't lose threat either because they're new or their gear isn't good or both. As far as new DPS go, whenever I get matched with one I just tell them "Kill everything". They never feel pressured to attack "the right target" because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

[Alexandros_Hanarak]

Strictly speaking as a new player who recently (since April 2014) started playing this game. I really appreciate it when someone marks and I'll explain why. When I started playing 2 months ago, I did my best to read all I could about my chosen class and future job (Lancer/dragoon), I learned the combos, I read the post in about "A Rotation Reborn", I printed it out. I made the effort. Suffice it to say by the end of April I was level 50. I usually waited a few seconds in each fight to see which mob got hit first, so I could hit the same one. Sometimes got into groups where other dps opened with AoE, so it was harder and sometimes I was hitting wrong one but quickly switched as soon as I noticed. Anyway, just for this I got insulted, and vote kicked in numerous occasions. Not to mention that if it was my first time on dungeon, I actually did mention it.

Since middle of May, I just stopped doing roulette altogether. I even moved servers LOL. Thankfully this past week, while FATE grinding in Coerthas of all places, I met with a bunch of nice people from a FC and joined them and double thankful to SE that now I can do daily roulette with a full pre-made group. So if I actually do suck, friendly people can advice me, instead of insult me and therefore I can improve.

[Dixon]

Sometimes got into groups where other dps opened with AoE, so it was harder and sometimes I was hitting wrong one but quickly switched as soon as I noticed. Anyway, just for this I got insulted, and vote kicked in numerous occasions. Not to mention that if it was my first time on dungeon, I actually did mention it.

You should have seen the first time I did Ifrit. I announced I was a first-timer--No one said anything. I focused on Ifrit the whole fight and we had wiped because I didn't attack the infernal nail. The tank and other DPS were like "WTF? ATTACK NAIL ASAP", I reminded them that I was a first timer--No response. The second time I attacked the nail and took it out. I also noticed the whole time the healer wasn't healing me.. being an Arcanist, I started healing myself, no big deal... But when I didn't get out of an AOE on time, I died. the healer started casting res but stopped, stood over me doing nothing, then started DPSing Ifrit.