BLM Question

[Blazers]

I was able to get my hands on 3 tokens for one of the new ilv 90 weapons.

My 3 50 classes are whm, bard, blm. Bard has relic +1 so even though the elfin bow looks really nice I wouldn't be able to support the accuracy loss right now and I already have ilv90 in that slot anyways. Whm X weapon looks pretty crummy with the crit on it, from what I've read it is the least desirable secondary for WHM. Truth be told I can't really tell a difference from stacking a lot of any secondary on whm.

That leaves black mage, when I initially looked at the stats on elder (crit/det) vs. relic (det/SS) I thought it was a no brainer because as I understood it crit was the best secondary for blm. However, i've now read a bunch of threads across a few sources that argue relic +1 is better...

End choice for me here is either upgrade to relic +1 for whm and X weapon for blm or vice versa.

[Blazers]

Am i correct in thinking that the elder staff is better than relic +1 overall? Accuracy not an issue as neither of them have it anyways. Having both +1 and X weapon is not going to be possible for a long time. Getting Allagan weapon is definitely not possible for even longer. (sorry hit word max)

[TheCurls]

I forget where I saw the graph, but gearing for spell speed is the best thing for BLM dps.

[Blazers]

I forget where I saw the graph, but gearing for spell speed is the best thing for BLM dps.

Interesting, I always pictured BLM as the slow heavy hitter and thought returns on SS weren't great. That being said I guess the relic +1 is the better option?

[TheCurls]

Interesting, I always pictured BLM as the slow heavy hitter and thought returns on SS weren't great. That being said I guess the relic +1 is the better option?

I'm on my phone at the moment. I'll see if I can't dig up the graph when I get the chance. Assuming nobody has done it already.

As for whether +1 is better? That's probably more up to how you play.

[Allyrion]

I'm on my phone at the moment. I'll see if I can't dig up the graph when I get the chance. Assuming nobody has done it already.

As for whether +1 is better? That's probably more up to how you play.

Did you mean Puro's graphs?

[Velev]

I'm not sure if you also noticed the delay on the Ex weapon compared to the relic +1.

I currently use the Ex weap since the delay is less and of course it it's nice to have that crit.

However i do swap back n forth between some gear depending on what Acc i need etc but in general i prefer the Elder over the +1.

[xEscaflownex]

I'm not sure if you also noticed the delay on the Ex weapon compared to the relic +1.

I currently use the Ex weap since the delay is less and of course it it's nice to have that crit.

... ... You do realize that the weapon delay only affects auto attacks...not your Cast speed or GCD lol, so with losing the 37 spell speed both are increased, not decreased.

Anyway, I was initially excited when I saw the det/crit like everyone else, so I bought the Elder Staff first, thinking to replace my Zenith. Sadly, Ive tried it out on lots of fights (All EXs, Coil 1-5, etc) and was very disappointed to find that I do significantly less dmg using it. I was originally stacking crit/det, but since noticing the the DPS increase from Zenith over Elder, I switched out all my equipment to Spell Speed, and do more DPS than I ever have.

So, in my experienced (and what any DPS calculator will tell you) Spell Speed is King, no BLM with equal ilvl wielding an Elder Staff has equaled my DMG, let alone exceeded it. I guess its fine as a place holder for allagan, but if you aren't in a group downing T5, and want to maximize your DPS, go with Zenith.

[NeoAmon]

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Edit: Looks like we better avoid mentioning "damage" all together. SE does not like the method we use to find out our DPS, another case was just reported in reddit.

[xEscaflownex]

I use HQ Buttons on all my DPS classes, in both calculators and in my parse experience they outperform Devil Eggs by a bit, as far as SS food, think I only bothered to look it up once and there isn't even a higher lvl version available, theres a lowbie food with crappy SS on it, so SS food is not an option.

And sure, I don't have all the pieces for full SS yet, I just switch over all my crit/det pieces, IE heroes, to Allagan ( I do have the t5 neck), I still need Allagan Boots, Gloves, and Chest though (Have DL boots and gloves, and AF2 Chest)


*Highest SS food is pineapple ponze, with 3%/22 Spell speed (need 733 spell speed to max, so would only get like 15 with 500 ish spell speed) and its paired with PIE lol.