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  1. #71
    Player
    Muzy's Avatar
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    Nira Muzyka
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Asierid View Post
    I am always left wondering where this magical sense of happiness that people expect from having no addons comes from.
    No idea, but I'll let you know when I find out! Also, your character name, pure win.

    I remember when I first encountered parsers/dps meters, I was like, ok, this seems like it could be useful, people constantly posting numbers and trying to use it to make themselves look good gets super annoying, but it's still useful.

    Here's a little something, people will be elitist assholes whether or not they have access to parsers, they'll just come up with other reasons, in fact they already do, adding in the parsers will only change the reasons, not the amount of assholes.
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  2. #72
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    Suellen Harkwyn
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I'd be happy and excited at a self only damagemeter with a obfuscated value. Basically some kind of random seed makes the number unique to you. So you can see when it's higher versus your own previous performances but there is no way for you to compare you dps to that of your neighbor as their scaling/seeding would be unique to them. That way you get the important value of being able to tell what builds/rotations work to optimize your performance but there is no epeen macho alpha dog rituals going on in every pug dungeon run.
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  3. #73
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    Asierid's Avatar
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    Saerin Zei
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Suellen View Post
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    Again, a lot of useless extra coding in an attempt to prevent something that is going to happen anyway. You still get people comparing numbers along side their epeen. You're basically creating extra hoops that are basically going to be ignored and ran over anyway for the sake of creating a false image to appeal to a minority who can't seem to grasp the concept of how much humanity sucks when it comes to competing. / longramblyrunonsentence

    Create one, or allow third party parsers and be done with it.
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  4. #74
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    ppl talk about DPS and i have seen ppl use the PARSER wrong

    example :

    1: monk 250 dps 50.000 dmg
    2 BLM 225 dps 42.000 dmg
    3: DRG 210 dps 53.000 dmg
    4:Brd 200 dps 45.000 dmg

    as u can see drg is 3 on dps but he did the most dmg, brd is last on dps but did more dmg than blm (2nd)

    maybe we never will be able to get a 100% accurate parser (dots on combat log) ....as far as i know , the parser can only "guess" the dmg of dots (correct me if im wrong) , and in this game dots crit too so.....is accurate but not 100%

    Parsers are a doble edge sword....ppl use it to gauge its own dmg , but mostly is used to harass ppl on the bottom of the parser

    cant wait until some support/dps comes along and gets blamed for every wipe :P
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 02-04-2014 at 07:50 PM.

  5. #75
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    Crimson-Falcon's Avatar
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    Veera Aurora
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    Omega
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    the only way i have found to test DPS players without parser is aggro meter

    the highest guy on aggro ( excluding tanks & healers ) means he/she the 1 with highest DPS
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  6. #76
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    the only way i have found to test DPS players without parser is aggro meter

    the highest guy on aggro ( excluding tanks & healers ) means he/she the 1 with highest DPS
    ehm nop:

    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Quelling_Strikes
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  7. #77
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    Varhaatus Var
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    A parser is useless here, nothing requires min/maxing and you don't even have gear selection to work on min/maxing.
    There is no DPS in this game because it is DP2.5S, you are a damage dealer which is a role you can visually see if you are doing right and EVERY (same class) damage dealer will be doing the same damage with the same rotation at endgame.

    PvP has one because theres is a total damage dealt per match.

    There is no competitive nature or endgame as of yet in PvE, but PvP is difference the very nature of PvP is competitive.
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    Last edited by Varhaatus; 02-04-2014 at 08:16 PM.

  8. #78
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    AdvancedWind's Avatar
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    the only way i have found to test DPS players without parser is aggro meter

    the highest guy on aggro ( excluding tanks & healers ) means he/she the 1 with highest DPS
    Nope. Quelling strikes. Also, summoner doesn't get enmity from pet damage. And if anyone dies, his hate is reset to 0.
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  9. #79
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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by JanVanding View Post
    Parsers were the reason Rift Raiding was only ever completed by a small portion of folk early on, because they were using it to alienate certain builds based off an "Estimate" Delve that doesn't take into account real DPS in boss scenarios, heck Bards would parse terribly compared to other healers but it didn't stop players from progressing in the "real" situation.
    Maybe that's because Bards were support classes in Rift?


    ITT:

    A legion of incompetent DPS scrubs QQQQing about their self-inflicted inferiority.


    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHigh View Post
    It's a tool that can/will be abused, there are already parties in PF's with "if you die more than once, you get kicked" can you imagine what its gonna be like with open parsers? "Need good DPS, if its low, you get kicked."
    "Titan HM: If you don't have full i90, kick".

    Old FC dumbasses tried to pull a gearcheck on me when I parsed higher DPS than any of them. Dropped those scrubs immediately.
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    Last edited by EasymodeX; 02-04-2014 at 11:50 PM.

  10. #80
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Maybe that's because Bards were support classes in Rift?


    ITT:

    A legion of incompetent DPS scrubs QQQQing about their self-inflicted inferiority.




    "Titan HM: If you don't have full i90, kick".

    Old FC dumbasses tried to pull a gearcheck on me when I parsed higher DPS than any of them. Dropped those scrubs immediately.
    They probably did because they wanted to see if you had the gear to backup your attitude. :\
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