Why can't we have the ability to create accurate Parser?

[Saccharin]

I think most of their decisions when making the game stem from what they observed 'other' MMOs problems are. In 'other' MMOs people can misuse parsers/meters a judge a player. I believe it's things that this that SE are trying to combat. It's the same with the ilevel info. They didn't have an average item level at launch because they probably didn't want to create another 'gearscore' type situation. It seems in the end they realised their folly and implemented on in 2.1. Perhaps they could allow you to parse only your own details. If I was a damage dealer i'd like to know if I've improved or not and not just rely on a feeling.

TL;DR: parsers are good but can/will be misused. SE should leave it to the community.

[Valmar]

Oh btw SE has banned players for admitting the use of a Parser, since it is against the TOS.

To the best of my knowledge SE cannot detect that you are using one, but if you come forth and say you do use one, they can, and probably will ban you.

Which is a reason why I don't use any kind of Parser, too much time spent on building my Character to afford a ban.

Also check out this Reddit post, be very careful when you are talking about Parser.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._for_ffxivapp/

[Zephyranthes]

While parser give good technical information, the main reason I think why they're disallowed is for community relationships. It will just be a non-stop battle of DPS counting and elitism.

[Tupsi]

Oh btw SE has banned players for admitting the use of a Parser, since it is against the TOS.

Correction - FFXIVAPP, not the parser part of it. As much as we want to feign ignorance, you do realize XIVAPP can do much, much more than just parse, right? People used the Japanese one since Beta P1 and never gotten banned for it because the Japanese one doesn't allow plugins to give you huge advantages in the game ("unofficial" ones people used not offered by the site.)

People who use parsers to harass other players are why it got attention because of the admittance of using a 3rd party app, not the fact it was 'just a parser'.

[Sfarzoso]

Oh btw SE has banned players for admitting the use of a Parser, since it is against the TOS.

To the best of my knowledge SE cannot detect that you are using one, but if you come forth and say you do use one, they can, and probably will ban you.

Which is a reason why I don't use any kind of Parser, too much time spent on building my Character to afford a ban.

Also check out this Reddit post, be very careful when you are talking about Parser.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._for_ffxivapp/

All I can say is. Amen to this.

[Delsus]

Before you start typing X reasons for not wanting SE to fix their intentionally broken battle logs, think about what I said, it is not going to stop players from using it, it is a very handy tool.

I'm curious what you mean by broken battle logs, it displays all damage recieved, taken and when you evade or block attacks, The only damage not shown in chatlogs is DoT damage, and this is the only reason they might be inaccurate (I haven't used on personally). I personally don't want to see my battle log spammed with DoT damage.

[Noahlimits]

I honestly don't understand the logic behind this. People are not going to stop using parsers, nor will it ever be anything more than a tool. It is very useful and many of us love it.

According to reddit, a lot of updates on parsers are showing last enemy spawn time, and where they spawned. This is more than being just a 'tool', it's cheating. Especially when used in PVP. I fully support them not allowing 3rd party parsers for this reason.

I'd be all for them making their own add on though. It's just rough to not be critical on individual member DPS when so many bosses have DPS race moments. If there was no such thing as enrage or heart/gaol instant death I'd see no reason for them to even exist.

Either way, I'm cool with what SE decides on this matter. And I'll never use one until they give the okay.

[NeoAmon]

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Wow, way to go off topic. The thread is about DD/DPS numbers. I don't care what you read/heard, it has nothing to do with what I'm asking for. Stick to the topic, SE made it impossible for anyone to create an accurate parser and we are forced to deal with inaccuracy up to 20%. Whatever people are attaching to these parsers are not the topic of this thread nor is it even a fair point to be added as it has nothing to do with "parsers".

[Noahlimits]

Wow, way to go off topic. The thread is about DD/DPS numbers. I don't care what you read/heard, it has nothing to do with what I'm asking for. Stick to the topic, SE made it impossible for anyone to create an accurate parser and we are forced to deal with inaccuracy up to 20%. Whatever people are attaching to these parsers are not the topic of this thread nor is it even a fair point to be added as it has nothing to do with "parsers".

How is the fact that it's against the TOS to use a 3rd party (anything) parser off topic? My post was explaining why it's against the TOS and why parsers wouldn't be needed as much in the first place if there weren't enrages and dps races in fights.

You're asking why they aren't allowing you/others to make a better parser; it's because it isn't allowed per TOS.