Why can't we have the ability to create accurate Parser?

[NeoAmon]

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Wow, way to go off topic. The thread is about DD/DPS numbers. I don't care what you read/heard, it has nothing to do with what I'm asking for. Stick to the topic, SE made it impossible for anyone to create an accurate parser and we are forced to deal with inaccuracy up to 20%. Whatever people are attaching to these parsers are not the topic of this thread nor is it even a fair point to be added as it has nothing to do with "parsers".

[Noahlimits]

Wow, way to go off topic. The thread is about DD/DPS numbers. I don't care what you read/heard, it has nothing to do with what I'm asking for. Stick to the topic, SE made it impossible for anyone to create an accurate parser and we are forced to deal with inaccuracy up to 20%. Whatever people are attaching to these parsers are not the topic of this thread nor is it even a fair point to be added as it has nothing to do with "parsers".

How is the fact that it's against the TOS to use a 3rd party (anything) parser off topic? My post was explaining why it's against the TOS and why parsers wouldn't be needed as much in the first place if there weren't enrages and dps races in fights.

You're asking why they aren't allowing you/others to make a better parser; it's because it isn't allowed per TOS.

[KogaDrake]

How is the fact that it's against the TOS to use a 3rd party (anything) parser off topic? My post was explaining why it's against the TOS and why parsers wouldn't be needed as much in the first place if there weren't enrages and dps races in fights.

You're asking why they aren't allowing you/others to make a better parser; it's because it isn't allowed per TOS.

When the topic is why does SE not let us use their official parser (which are actually giving the correct numbers) that they use for internal balance tests and also use in PvP and give the output at the end of the fight, I would say talking about the junk tosses into 3rd party ones and TOS is a bit off topic.


So much discussion if it is actually against TOS, or should we have all the addons included in the 3rd party ones would just go away if we had the official ones SE uses that are attached to the game (or at least the development build has them attached). In 4 and 8 man content one person slacking has a HUGE effect, so much more then the 40man raids of crappy WOW back in the day, and this is why a official parser would be nice to have, and why people will use even non-accurate unofficial ones.

[Firetta]

It'd be great if there was an official parser which I could use to track only my own DPS. I have no interesting in assessing myself against random people I party with -- I am only interested in knowing how well I am performing against other people who are willing to share their average DPS over specific battles/dungeons (e.g., Titan EX), and in analyzing what happens to that average DPS as I practice with existing rotations, try new ones, or change my gear.

[LunarEmerald]

I think the game itself should provide a parser for you only. You should be able to see your own dps. Just make it where you can't see anybody else's to prevent problems.

[Noahlimits]

When the topic is why does SE not let us use their official parser (which are actually giving the correct numbers) that they use for internal balance tests and also use in PvP and give the output at the end of the fight, I would say talking about the junk tosses into 3rd party ones and TOS is a bit off topic.

The thread is titled "Why can't we have the ability to create accurate Parser?" He also asks the same question again in his thread.

Asking to CREATE an accurate parser indicates third party. If he had said "Why can't SE give us the use of an accurate parser" it'd be a different story.

[reality_check]

I don't understand, how is it any less of a tool when there are fewer people in your raid?

I would love for Square to add their own parser to the game. As a tank its very easy to know if I'm doing my job well or not, but when playing a dps its all just guess work now without a parser.

Scenario one: You didn't meet a DPS check in FFXIV. Have the four DPS collaborate, how can we increase are DPS as a whole so that we can meet this DPS check?

Scenario two: You didn't meet a DPS check in vanilla WoW. You can't have 30 people all chime in and discuss how to increase the DPS. So you have one person look at the charts and call out the people in the lowest spots.

It's a completely different ball game.

[reality_check]

How is this even a logical response? You're right, you can usually see how gimp someone is with your own two eyes. You can also equip an ilvl 90 weapon and know that you're doing more DPS than you did with your ilvl 80 one. Do you know EXACTLY how much though? Are you going to glue your eyes to the log and write down each point of damage on your napkin and break it down after 5 turns of coil?

Didn't think so. Don't post just to hear yourself talk...

Do you need to know exactly how much DPS you and the other three dps in your party are doing? No. You don't. Did you meet the DPS checks? Grats. Did you not? Talk with your party.

[Ronyx]

Dont need Parse to play ANY game. Thats just for people to brag about how far they can go, nothing else.

[Doki]

Here's a parser for you: When you take too long to kill a boss, it enrages and wipes everyone.