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    SE it's time for A new Job Please. (Tank)

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    Just so people don't get confused. I didn't name Ninja and Viking as a New tank because I wanted a Tank who can DPS. Ninja Can be copied from FFXI and Viking just seems like it would fit into FFXIV Lore with Ishgard.


    So there are threads about what jobs people want. This is about what we need.

    I know the first new job is Musketeer. But SE we really need a new Tank Job. I think having a new Tank Role that player like would get more players to play a Tank, Who don't like to play as one now. I believe Having more Tanks would alleviate the Queue time for DPS. I really dislike sitting around for 30-45mins to get in a instanced. Also I do have a PLD but I love my MNK.

    So what Tank Jobs are there that we could have? Ninja is probably the most likely, We also have Viking. How those roles would fit into the games lore I don't know. But Maybe a Viking could come from Ishgard? Ninja? There are quite a few more Tank jobs.

    SE please give us a new Tank Job please. I would really like to have BLU, But I think a Tank would serve a better purpose for everyone than another DPS.


    Going to put this here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
    There was a very similar thread from way back in November in the Tanking Roles forums. Folks might find lots in there worthwhile.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ming-new-tanks

    Informed by that thread and by my own views, I suggest the following:

    1. The main reason for a tank shortage in this game (and indeed all mmos) is not that there is a shortage of tanking classes but that not all players enjoy tanking. Yes, the imbalance might be lessened by group sizes of 5/10 rather than 4/8, and maybe more interesting tank types and a less toxic community would make a difference too, but only around the edges. There's a certain visceral joy in the killing stuff role, plus one is less exposed to group angst.
    2. That said, the imbalance is likely to be made worse if new dps classes come out without bringing out a new tanking class as well. Without a new tanking class we would see lots of players playing up new dps and no tanks being played up at the same time. Now, granted (see #1), those playing up the tanks are more likely than not players who already play tanks, but still...
    3. In the end, only mitigation tanks work. Pure evasion tanks are either ghods if they can evade everything or they are broken if they almost evade everything. That is, they are ghod-like until the RNG wins, and then they are just dead. In the same way, a pure self-healing tank doesn't work. If a tank can't take the big hit it doesn't matter how fast it can heal itself up afterwards if it's already dead.
    4. Nevertheless, there are tons of different class mechanics that can be used to mitigate. There is plenty of room for SE to bring out a new tank that does the same job (holds aggro and takes a beating but keeps on ticking) but in different ways.

    And frankly, that's all I remember as bottom line conclusions (at least my take-away conclusions) from that long-ago thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by Muzy View Post
    This.

    The problem is not the variety of tank classes, but more the role itself, people just don't want to deal with the crap that gets thrown at them as a tank if something goes sideways, or the responsibility, or just want to see big numbers.
    This is the biggest issue we have. Today was the 1st time I jumped on PLD in almost 2 months, And that's because there are rude players.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 01-09-2014 at 01:13 AM.

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    yes let's add another tank, that people wont play.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    yes let's add another tank, that people wont play.......
    This.

    The problem is not the variety of tank classes, but more the role itself, people just don't want to deal with the crap that gets thrown at them as a tank if something goes sideways, or the responsibility, or just want to see big numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    So there are threads about what jobs people want. This is about what we need. Are you a DPS who has Queue times longer than 30mins? If you said yes,Then this is for you.

    ....

    SE please give us a new Tank Job please. I would really like to have BLU, But I think a Tank would serve a better purpose for everyone than another DPS.
    Seeing as there's nothing wrong with the Tanks now, this would only alleviate the queue times for about ~2 weeks while people test out. Also, you would probably be playing with horrible Tanks for 2 weeks. And you didn't go into it, but I can ALREADY tell that you would design these Tanks to be kinda Tanky and kinda DPS. People like to see .001 millimeter more shaved off of the boss's health bar, than to see .05 less shaved off, but actually have to worry about keeping aggro, adds, positioning, etc. *shrugs*
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    Id rather have a new role (support) and add a Redmage (melee Enfeebler) and chemist (ranged buffer)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    yes let's add another tank, that people wont play.......
    If they added Ninja I guarantee that a lot of people would play, Hell I would play NIN more than I do my PLD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    Seeing as there's nothing wrong with the Tanks now, this would only alleviate the queue times for about ~2 weeks while people test out. Also, you would probably be playing with horrible Tanks for 2 weeks. And you didn't go into it, but I can ALREADY tell that you would design these Tanks to be kinda Tanky and kinda DPS. People like to see .001 millimeter more shaved off of the bosses health bar, than to see .05 less shaved off, but actually have to worry about keeping aggro, adds, positioning, etc. *shrugs*
    People have to learn the job. I played NIN in FFXI and never really had a problem tanking, Don't see why they couldn't balance the job In FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 01-08-2014 at 04:25 AM.

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    It sounds like you want a Tank class that somehow is a DPS but that's also still a meatshield, but that just doesn't seem like the dev team wants to make that at all. If they ever do make another Tank, it's going to be another class that does just as little damage as the current Tanks do (compared to DPS) and will probably have the same lack of appeal to people that wanna do high damage numbers.
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    "Well, it's no Vana'diel, but it'll have to do..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    yes let's add another tank, that people wont play.......
    I would 100% play a tank role if it was anything other than PLD or WAR. Hell I'm considering taking up WAR but I hate the way all the gear looks, which is why I haven't. If they released SAM or NIN as a tank, sign me up on day 1.
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    Honestly, Lancer needs a Tank job. Every city has a tank job except Gridania and Gridania only has one melee class to base upon, Lancer. And if Lancer gained a tank job, I'd so play it in a heartbeat. Tired of running into tanks that have no clue how to manage hate, much less position enemies.
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    I hate to be the one that say this but Ninja was never the intended tank in FFXI. Adding another tank will still not solve the problem that is noone wants to take the blame for when something fails.

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