Letter to the Producer, Stay Class-less not Classy

[Mokona]

maybe add medal or something instead of soul crystal (put in same slot) to make previous class become "highclass"
-gain stat bonus (maybe not as high as job)
-retain all cross class skill slot (max 10)
-add only 1-2 exclusive skill for that class (job, u get 5 skills) eg. spark - AoE thunder field at floor like flame arrow for highclass THM
-only available at lv 50/45 (depend on how many new skill add)

[ErikMynhier]

Classes are classes, jobs are spec trees. It'll be more obvious when we start getting more jobs for the classes we have.


P.S. I would love a special trait or two for jobs. Make them quest rewards that require at least iLv 70-80.

[Mardel]

Classes are classes, jobs are spec trees. It'll be more obvious when we start getting more jobs for the classes we have.


P.S. I would love a special trait or two for jobs. Make them quest rewards that require at least iLv 70-80.

Jobs are not spec trees sadly. The devs have stated in the past that the purpose of the job is for party play and that each person should have the ability to play ever job/class on 1 character. (However I guess they did not say it wouldn't be gimped by having to choose between 1 job or another job based off a single class.) However by doing so they alienate potential casual players who want to do a bit of everything XD.

[Zaels]

No. Don't you dare take away my healer's swiftcast.

[Mardel]

They could take it away and make Pressence of Mind make your next 3 spells 50-75% faster? I think that maybe better in some situations.

[Langureion]

Jobs are not spec trees sadly. The devs have stated in the past that the purpose of the job is for party play and that each person should have the ability to play ever job/class on 1 character. (However I guess they did not say it wouldn't be gimped by having to choose between 1 job or another job based off a single class.) However by doing so they alienate potential casual players who want to do a bit of everything XD.

Bit of everything!? And remove cross class!? Sounds like you just want one job that does everything....=_=;
You really need to look into the concept behind FF series in the past instead of looking it as any other MMOs...it's called Final Fantasy for a reason.

I also tank on warrior too, heal on sch, dps on blm, and dps on drg, ^^; I try and not pull things out of thin air. I have bounced around ideas in the past with friends of mine in the past.

lv50 doesn't mean u fully understand the job, by saying stonekin and bloodbath are bad skills pretty much shows you still lack the knowledge and the experience of tanking and healing.

They could take it away and make Pressence of Mind make your next 3 spells 50-75% faster? I think that maybe better in some situations.

Again, why try to shape the game you wanted? Then everyone would have their own reasons to buff or nerf certain skills....which is pretty much pointless.

Nothing wrong with giving suggestion to the develop team, but you need to look further and deeper instead of just something in front of you.
After all you are talking about changing the foundation of the game.

[Mardel]

@langureion

Sorry but I must retort and say you must be mistaken. I've played and beaten Final fantasy numbered, the tactics series, dimensions, and even a few spin offs. The reason I refer to other MMO is because guess what? You are playing one! Omg surprise! This isn't a typical FF and shouldn't be treated like a single player game.

As for the comment on wanting every class to do everything, do you even read? I had a section on individuality, I know it is a big word but google is your friend. If anything I want the game to simulate being the job you are playing and not be just a mash of random skills.

As for blood bath is a bad skill; it's kind of true. I know it had some uses but overall it will probably never save you in a clutch moment. I. E. Twintania doing a death sentence and auto attack nearly at the same time, doubled wicked wheel, incinerate, or eating a double bomb. The amount of hp replenished is just very weak. A single crit life surge full thrust on drg probably does more of an hp regen than the full use of bloodbath.

Stoneskin on pld is something to use because you really have nothing better to do. Like why not use cover? Oh wait it is because the skill is bad and the times you would use it is from not holding hate correctly anyways. Chances are it might even kill you and the covered both. As for me being inexperienced in other roles... I've tanked the extreme primals on sell runs so I'm not a Super noob tank. Healer wise I am not as acquainted outside ultima hard mode, CT, and extreme garuda but I'm sure I could do other fights outside turn 5.

Also please read what I said with taking my ideas with a grain of salt. I do not want to shape the game my ideal way. However you white knighting flaws isn't going to improve it either. At least I'm being proactive and pointing out issues. I'll even make a poll soon to collect data on people's opinions on the class system and what skills should be changed per class.

[Langureion]

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Stop adding your own assumptions...dude...look up "EXAMPLE" in dictionary please.
I'm not saying you can't give suggestion, as i mentioned.
But you are still only looking at the surface of the game and not the core mechanics. (shurg)
Implanting feature and changing foundation is totally different.
Making polls means nothing, just means how ppl want theis jobs/classes to be.
Wel, it might give you better ideas on jobs, i guess. lol
Again, you need to understand the concept behind FF....playing doesn't mean you understand it. Hell, a elementary kid can beat those FF games...
After all these posts are you still saying "i don't like these, i want these", and still no real solution.
It's like "hey, i want a faster car", but you are ignoring all other facts like ECU tuning, and weight reduction and suspension.
Again, just an EXAMPLE.

You need think more like designer.
HOW IS IT GONNA EFFCT OVER ALL GAMING and what already built.
If this is not clear enough for you....wel, i guess you enjoy wasting time.
And this is FINAL FANTASY, if you notice, no, you still don't get it.

[Darkstride]

Well the problem is that originally Final Fantasy XIV never had jobs. Classes existed alone, along with the ability to use cross-class skills. Classes weren't dedicated to an exact role. Thaumaturge had healing and debuffs and Conjurer was the Elementalist.....a lot has changed. Jobs were added later as new content to "specialize" the classes. However, once jobs were introduced and the system got an overhaul, they didn't really balance it...jobs were basically just an upgrade. I don't think the problem is the class system....it's the job system and how it was implemented. It may have been better if Jobs had been something you unlocked and leveled up independently.

[Mardel]

This is a good point and I miss those skills we had then. Like you said it isnt balanced and at times it seems like they are unsure what to do about it. Now, I do accredit their hard work but tweaking the job system or class system would be a good move