Why no one tanks...

[Vennox]

So many self entitled kids that run in and face pull everything, you pick it all up.

You pick it up? I let em die in the hopes they learn the simpleast of rules. Let the tank pull (unless the tank states otherwise), everybody lives, all get their rewards and all is right with the world.

Having said that, while you do make a good point, I only stopped tanking due to lag spikes in dungeons. I dont think players should be forced into a group with a tank that loses aggro because his client isn't responding for 5 seconds or more. Until thats sorted, I wont be tanking again. Aside from that, I love it! Sure you get the few morons who think they're all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips just give them the usual "If you don't like it, you can leave if you prefer."

All up, there are many reasons some players dont tank. I dont think that players attitude is a sole reason but a little courtesy and common sense would definitely go a long way for a lotta them I'd think.

[LunarEmerald]

Tanking is pretty boring in boss fights. Not in dungeons when you're continually pulling and fighting against dps to hold hate.

[darkstarpoet1]

honestly, being a tank or healer takes a different type of person than just a dps. the reason people don't want to tank or heal is because they have the majority of responsibility of the party surviving on their shoulders. they do not want the responsibility nor do they want to be a leader. if a tank pulls mobs into the wrong location or turns them at the wrong time it's a wipe for the whole party. the more responsibility and advanced knowledge needed for a role in the party the less amount of people will be willing to do that role.

this is especially true with today's impatient, give it to me now, pew pew type of players. they want to do the bare minimum of effort needed to get things done as has been shown by people constantly complaining about things are too tough and should be lowered because their skill is quite bad. they don't want to put in any effort to improve their bad skills so they beg for the content that's already not hard to be made even easier.

[Niko_Kishiko]

I tried tanking and was treated like dirt so I only use my tank for t3 in coil and to troll the DF ques.

[odie]

i love tanking....but i think its not just one reason people aren't tanking...i think its several

for one, i started MRD once and hated it because i found it too difficult to pick up initially. I wasn't good at keeping hate and kind of just put it back on the shelf and went healer. I did eventually go back and try again and got better at it and now i love WAR!

also, the most common thing i hear people say is "i would level a tank, but i don't want the responsibility." most of the time, those people choose DPS instead. but i wouldn't say its one reason in particular over any other.

[KrenianKandos]

Haven't honestly had issues Tanking. Sure, things can irk me but in the end, it's a game and it's not some random anon on this game being an asshat that's going to deter me away from playing the class.

I play the class, I think I do a good job (CDs are normally on rotation unless absolutely needed for a specific attack, Aggro is pretty much constant on me, don't go and cleave things in the face...), so that's all that I care for. Also, most of the time, I can take criticism very well so I tend to grow and learn from it.

Most people don't have the thick skin to deal with tanking. Period. It's a more stressful environment if you let it be. Otherwise, learn your role, preform well, don't stand in the fire...oh wait, that sounds like any class in any MMO really.

[Aicasia]

honestly, being a tank or healer takes a different type of person than just a dps. the reason people don't want to tank or heal is because they have the majority of responsibility of the party surviving on their shoulders. they do not want the responsibility nor do they want to be a leader. if a tank pulls mobs into the wrong location or turns them at the wrong time it's a wipe for the whole party. the more responsibility and advanced knowledge needed for a role in the party the less amount of people will be willing to do that role.

That is a half-truth, nothing more. It's the reason SOME people don't want to tank or heal.

[Haredin-Hunter]

The main reason I don't tank anymore is because I'm behind the curve and my ping is terrible (I have 25% of the attack bars to get out of the aoe) when on american servers. (I don't speak or want to play with primarily japanese people, bad experiences.)

The reason I stopped tanking originally was because I'd run an instance 15+ times to get my guild their gear and I do it again to help out one of my healer friends I made and I would get hotshots who refused to listen to my simple orders. Such as attack my target and stay behind me, being the primary ones. I would also have to deal with warriors who refused to offtank when I flat out told them I wasn't experienced enough (or with good enough ping) to handle all the extra adds. Ultimately it came down to ping and being unable to give SE my money due to their strict address requirements and (at that time) their horrendous support.

[Kinseykinz]

I'm not sure where this notion comes from to be honest. What I see is usually the other way round, Tanks treating people like dirt because they know they'll be too scared to kick them as they won't get a replacement.

I've also done most level 50 content as Healer/Tank and I always got more bitching as Healer than I ever did as Tank.

I think this notion comes more from the 'new class' of tanks. The people leveling or who just hit 50 now who are doing content with players who have more experience on said content. So tank walks in and says 'hey I'm new to tanking this' and people either moan, leave or start randomly pulling stuff etc. And if the tank loses aggro even once, they start to berate because well....the tank lost hate and admitted being new.

So just like a good tank shouldn't leave because people are new...and shouldn't speed run with people barely geared for the content, new tanks shouldn't be pushed to their breaking point.

But with the duty roulette basically handing you free exp every day for simply queueing as a tank, there's bound to be more people playing, and therefore learning the role. Of course not all of them can be good (I for example, strongly prefer healing but finished leveling PLD today), but just like DD's and Healers hate when tanks get all 'My way or else!' with the party...tanks hate it too. (And yes, as a healer I have had my fair share of bossy/elitiist tanks).

Tanking IS stressful. (you control the flow/pace of the dungeon>against DD/Healers who try real hard to mess that up +you know, holding hate)
Healing IS stressful. (you have no control over the flow/pace of the dungeon>have to fix everything 'stupid' that happens via heals+ you know, your actual maintain the tank 'expected' heals)

No one should be purposefully be making anyone else's in the groups job more difficult. So:

DD's maybe hold back from unleashing every single arrow/spear/nuke you have while the tank is STILL positioning the mobs...

Tanks, provoke or flash or throw something at the random mob that gets away when DD's get sloppy and attack the wrong target/healers overheal/oversleep.

Healers, you know, the tank will live if you don't keep them 100% full right...heal them and the party...but don't go bonkers. You can throw out a repose on an add (less damage on tank) or Aero/Stone inbetween heals for faster kills=less healing aggro on the add mobs to you...oh and Fluid Aura...know when to use it...don't make monks/tanks chase mobs that weren't actually eating your face.

But in general, be patient with each other...especially is someone is new/or playing a new party role to them. You weren't perfect your first time doing something...don't expect the other party members to be flawless either.

[Colt47]

I tank all the time and I don't consider myself a leader of the group at all. The reality is that the responsibility in combat lies as much with the damage dealers as it does with the tanks and healers, so I don't think I have any more pressure on me than the guy with the spear.