Why no one tanks...

[mythicrose]

I mean, I get the angle you're using here, but it's a pretty big screw-up.

A "minor slip" is open to interpretation. That doesn't mean something minor could have massive consequences. I'd consider forgetting to activate shield oath a minor slip up. It's easy enough to do but can have massive reprecussions.


I'd bet most paladins have forgotten to activate shield oath at one point or another. We're all human and prone to err from time to time no matter what we do (in the virtual world or in the real world). Warriors at least notice their heath pool is low without defiance activated.

[Neofirefly]

The minor slip as perceived by the tank equals omg you just majorly screwed us as percieved by the dps is exactly the reason there is fewer tanks...

[Aicasia]

A "minor slip" is open to interpretation. That doesn't mean something minor could have massive consequences. I'd consider forgetting to activate shield oath a minor slip up. It's easy enough to do but can have massive reprecussions.

You're right, and I'm not out to insult anyone or tell them they're wrong, or that I'm right. It's just, even something like that, yeah its a minor slip. But then continuing to not notice, because as a tank you should be aware of how much damage you take just as much as the healers are, is a pretty big screw-up. Unless you're one or two shot, that kind of slip is fixable before anything goes horribly wrong.

In how I view it, I say "I should have used the ability a half a second earlier/later" depending on its position, my position, and its pathing. Its not common, and it's mostly just bad luck but it's what I mean by a minor slip can cause a wipe, because after it does, people are like "hum, so what happened". You still feel like poop after.

Fair enough. I was just curious as to what you considered a minor slip. Because minor to the tank is not minor to the rest of the group. Like, a tank failing to get aggro quickly. Maybe they forgot to use flash, like the other person said. A minor thing to the tank, but its not actually minor. It's a pretty big slip up. So, I get what you're saying but I thought you meant universally minor things, not minor from a tank's perspective.

In which case you're right, but I don't think that's really what pushes people away from wanting to play a tank. I'm sure it is true for some people, just like some people find tanks boring, and some people feel they have more responsibility and don't want that perceived additional pressure. It's all three, and you can alleviate some of the problems with boss mechanics, or fun, flashy abilities. I mean, I love tanking in TERA, but I hate it in WoW and ARR. People like different things, it's not just one thing that keeps tank populations low.

I just think everyone trying to blame the lack of tanks on one specific issue/reason is silly. There are a good handful of reasons, we can't just say people are afraid of responsibility, and that there is no possible way they could find it boring, or that they're afraid of their mistakes being more visible, or they don't like mitigation tanking. But that's all these threads ever turn into, because god forbid someone find something you (not you) like boring or uninteresting. I don't know, I'm not saying anyone is wrong, but people need to start understanding that it's not all about perceived responsibility.