Why no one tanks...

[Kazamoto]

Had my tank jimmies rustled for the first time yesterday in a CT run.

My tank is i76, not great, not bad. (For CT anyway)

We get to King Behemoth, someone claims Iron Giant, which I generally do, since people cant hold it still.. then I notice the other tanks are all at towers.

I've never tanked King Behe before, and my gear isn't where I'd like it to be to do it.

Scholar runs in and pulls KB, all the DPS go full attack, and I realize that the only tank left is me.

Rather than let me get hate and drag it back to the wall, everyone spams their head off, provoke and halon are't pulling hate while Behe ping-pongs around.

I finally get hold of Behe, drag him to the wall, by then 2 healers are down, and I get little to no heals, I die, we wipe.

Then people ask what happens, and the other healer in the party that pulled Behe starts flaming me for not learning how to tank, i should just uninstall, yada yada yada.

Spent the rest of that run doing pretty much nothing.

I'll gladly tank anything you want, but please for the love of god, dont go all out if a mob is running around loose.

Spent the rest of the day on my Brd going pew-pew without a care in the world.

[Volgera]

Rather than let me get hate and drag it back to the wall, everyone spams their head off, provoke and halon are't pulling hate while Behe ping-pongs around.

I finally get hold of Behe, drag him to the wall, by then 2 healers are down, and I get little to no heals, I die, we wipe.

I lmao here reading this. Its exactly the way it happens. Thats why I try to run ahead of everyone to get one of those towers since I'm only i67 tank.

[LoLo]

experience

If you provoke you rip all hate off everyone else and transplant it onto you. I don't know if you did that. But when someone gets aggro and is DPSing it for a little I hit provoke and then my other hate gathering move and I always get aggro. I can even take hate off tanks that have been tanking for a good minute with it. Not sure what happen with you in this, sorry to hear you had a bad time in CT. People can be mean.

[MythToken]

This is silly, it's not that no one wants to tank.
It's that not many can tank, because to tank you have to be boss.

Most of you arn't boss.

Therefore there are not many tanks.

--A Boss

[Kadas]

If you provoke you rip all hate off everyone else and transplant it onto you.

Technically, Provoke does not rip hate off. It just puts you +1 over the one with the most hate over that mob. The other guy will now be 2nd in hate, it won't transfer it or "rip it off" him.

[LoLo]

Technically, Provoke does not rip hate off. It just puts you +1 over the one with the most hate over that mob. The other guy will now be 2nd in hate, it won't transfer it or "rip it off" him.

but it does just the same and so what if it technically does that. It basically gives you number one on the hate list causing the one with hate to be under you and after awhile the move down the hate list because you are gaining more and more hate.

[Huginn]

but it does just the same and so what if it technically does that. It basically gives you number one on the hate list causing the one with hate to be under you and after awhile the move down the hate list because you are gaining more and more hate.

Provoke! congratulations, you are top of the hate list, now you need to tomahawk or shield lob because the mob was chasing someone else. In the mean time, everyone is still firing off their highest enmity ranged attack and guess what, you can't execute your high enmity skills because the mob is out of range for them. sure, you could get close and holmgang the mob, but good luck pulling it back into place after, because no one will stop doing whatever they can to try to "inadvertantly" pull it off of you.
Until tanks are given the ability to grab hate at range faster than a crazed ilvl91 BLM or BRD, your provoke is not going to do the trick as easily as you seem to depict it.

[LoLo]

kneejerk reaction

So you are complaining about using stuff you already have to use after provoke? Ok, then I guess at that point you would be considered a bad tank. Shield Lob/ Tomahawk or enmity skill should be used right after provoke just like I said in my first post here that you choose to ignore. Then you do your combos and other stuff. If I can pull hate off a main tank with provoke and just combos, it shouldn't be hard to get hate from DD. lol

[juniglee]

So you are complaining about using stuff you already have to use after provoke? Ok, then I guess at that point you would be considered a bad tank. Shield Lob/ Tomahawk or enmity skill should be used right after provoke just like I said in my first post here that you choose to ignore. Then you do your combos and other stuff. If I can pull hate off a main tank with provoke and just combos, it shouldn't be hard to get hate from DD. lol

@Huginn: In case you don't know how Provoke works (I assume you do, because you say you've played tanks)

Provoke simply puts you at the one point of enmity higher than the person with the current highest enmity for that mob. Given that a single auto attack is enough to generate more than 1 point of enmity from anyone (no enmity modifiers), you will always follow up with Shield Lob/Tomahawk. Shield Lob/Tomahawk has 3x enmity multipliers, which is calculated to the damage it does.

If you simply Provoke, any DD can take back the aggro. Whether they are iLevel 15, or iLevel 91.

So LoLo is right here. I've never heard of anyone not following up a Provoke with Shield Lob/Tomahawk, or combo'ed Savage Blade/Rage of Halone/Skull Sunder/Butcher's Block.

[Stoudbaker]

Had my tank jimmies rustled for the first time yesterday in a CT run.

My tank is i76, not great, not bad. (For CT anyway)

We get to King Behemoth, someone claims Iron Giant, which I generally do, since people canthe only tank left is me.

Rather than let me get hate and drag it back to the wall, everyone spams their head off, provo

Then people ask what happens, and the other healer in the party that pulled Behe starts flaming me for not learning how to tank, i should just uninstall, yada yada yada.

Spent the rest of that run doing pretty much nothing.

I'll gladly tank anything you want, but please for the love of god, dont go all out if a mob is running around loose.

Spent the rest of the day on my Brd going pew-pew without a care in the world.

im ilvl85 & agree 100%,i had to tank KB in lag twice out of last 3

times,guess what,3rd time was a wipe afew times,its annoying when no1 calls MT & then ilvl 50 tank tries to mt bosses