Why no one tanks...

[Ran1880]

it's weird but I enjoy tanking more than playing dd. I'm not so good in dps lol.
But still I like both tanking & dps. That way I can observe how other play their class & learn from it.

[HeroSamson]

Well actually its kinda true about the bad mouthing Tanks, I have seen it first hand in CT and myself been called out but I did what he accused me not doing, Like example whm told me to flash I did like 3-4 times and said sorry but not before he called me names, another time I seen bad mouthing in CT where this sch called all the tanks retards on Acheron fight only cause he got caught by a claw but nobody could get him out in time it was either run to circle or wipe we chose circle he called all tanks stupid.

Then last but not least my favorite, whm who let me die and I asked why didn't you heal me? They said maybe you should dodge more, I pulled the add off whm and tanking boss at same time we win, then bad mouthed me saying because I cant dodge hits I suck haha well that's my job as tank let it all hit me, its their job as healer to keep me alive after I explain this they said no its not my job which then I ignored.

[HeroSamson]

I Tank fine, point is some people need to keep their comments to themselves or its gonna be WHM revolt all over again aka the FFXI whm depression if anyone remembers this I will be surprised lol

[Demetirus]

I always feel weird because, at least for stuff other than endgame content (which I haven't done), I've always been treated pretty well as a tank and had a good time. I can think of maybe one instance so far in FFXIV where it wasn't so fun due to the standard DPS ignoring enmity (bard goes balls to the wall, blames me while he has to kite tank), healer pew-pewing and only one DD (a pretty damn good monk) following my marks.

[Arkghyom]

Because it's boring!

[Huginn]

I see a lot of people who do not routinely play all roles commenting on how tanks are not treated poorly.

As someone who routinely plays SMNSCHWARPLDBRDMNK, i would like to provide my observations.

Interjectory TL;DR Tanks are treated the worst in this game, no matter what level they are or instance they are in, unless in a group of known friends. Healers are treated second worst, and DDs are normally the culprits of unwarranted hateful vitriolic bile spewed forth upon the hardworking tanks and healers.

As a tank, in low level dungeons where you do not have your abilities yet, DPS jobs tend to show up in ilvl85+ gear, go all out and tell you that you suck as a tank and tell you to "use your enmity combo" or "spam flash/overpower" then proceed to pull the next wave of mobs without giving you time to recover mp/tp.

Throughout all levels of instance play, tanks are usually given the least leeway and have the smallest margins for error. The level of vitriol spewing forth from probably 30% of DPS job players makes tanking a near thankless job wherein you are expecting abuse when you queue up. The only thing i see more frustrating than being a tank in a party of random players is being a melee DD trying to get into a group of random players; they will overwhelmingly not permit you entrance due to melee taking increased damage risk.

I have a friend who has recently started the game and started as Gladiator. His first incident of player abuse was experienced in sastasha. Thats right, the very first dungeon he had ever run ended up as a DPS railing on the tank about not keeping hate and using "only auto attacl" (which i assure you was not the case) even though the DPS did not know how to prevent adds from spawning. When i pointed out that the same DD who was railing on the tank did not know how to prevent adds, i was greeted with racial slurs.

This kind of behavior is commonplace, even doing a good job as tank normally only nets you a player commendation, it does not prevent the hateful comments on your gear or your perceived ability.

Healers can get a decent amount of bile spewed their way, but it is never as bad as what tanks get.


Here is a bit of advise to the DDs out there who do not regularly play a tank class: Often, tanks are also levelling/gearing several other jobs. Please remember that you may only obtain 450 myth per week, one CT drop per week and allagan gear is also limited. With 9 lvl 50 jobs to gear, I will not show up in ilvl 91 gear. and, no, your argument of "DoM/DoW are too easy to level, having them all at 50 doesnt mean anything" does not hold water when you only have one to three level 50 classes.

[Sfarzoso]

Tanking suck on FF and 99.9% of you got no reconnaissance when you have a good tank, and shitty players are always running their fingers saying it's tank fault when they just suck at switching target and do their job, and freaking healers that got hard time to follow their assignment leaving us to die.

Was tank since 1.0 but since holidays I said. To hell with it! Geared Monk and Now Black Mage and I laugh at fail people. I done every battle in this game and too bad if you people stuck with bad tanks now!

[MythToken]

Tanking suck on FF and 99.9% of you got no reconnaissance when you have a good tank, and shitty players are always running their fingers saying it's tank fault when they just suck at switching target and do their job, and freaking healers that got hard time to follow their assignment leaving us to die.

Was tank since 1.0 but since holidays I said. To hell with it! Geared Monk and Now Black Mage and I laugh at fail people. I done every battle in this game and too bad if you people stuck with bad tanks now!

The above is filled with wrongness.

Tanking is more fun in FF than in most mmos ive ever played.
reconnaissance requires a scout
how does one run a finger?
healer assignments? homework?

[Sfarzoso]

The above is filled with wrongness.

Tanking is more fun in FF than in most mmos ive ever played.
reconnaissance requires a scout
how does one run a finger?
healer assignments? homework?

Far to be wrong. If you are able to bother with replying such reply, without even not be lazy enough to remotely bother searching for the meaning of what you can not understand!

Then do not bother with trying to make fun of people on forums ! It's rude and makes you look like a *beep*

[Huginn]

First off, Lolo, it is quite offensive to use the quote function and replace it with your insulting interpretation of what someone posted.

Lolo, i was pointing out that your oversimplification of "just rip it off everyone with provoke" was not so simple when you have to move the mob a distance when it is already at max distance for provoke and shield tomahawk.

for lolo and juniglee: i guess i was overcomplicating specific times when a tank might have difficulty grabbing hate. Yes, of course you would always follow a provoke with either shield lob, tomahawk or overpower, that much is obvious to everyone. my response was to your earlier statement that provoke would "rip the mob off" of the other players. you oversimplified and in the case which i did not make proper reference to, namely king behemoth when you were previously on a tower and the main tank just died so you have to grab the boss now while everyone is in the middle of their best job at doing as much damage as possible and KB is already 3/4 of the way to the back of the arena where no one will permit you to place him to start tanking because they have the preconceived notion that he must be tanked only on the north side.

The entire point was that you are not always able to immediately follow up with an enmity combo due to max range of melee attacks

you must however be correct, based on one statement that you misunderstood, i am indeed a bad tank. Therefor, you should be as insulting as you can possibly be, without violating the terms of the forum.