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  1. #51
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    TaneshimaPopura's Avatar
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    Taneshima Popura
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    Carbuncle
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    Marauder Lv 50
    MRDs are very weak against CC. Use it against them, when I see a MRD/WAR pop Berserk I just go there and Pacify him with Axe Kick and proceed to One Ilm Punch away his Berserk. After that it is every time he is near and pops Berserk you just One Ilm Punch and he will be pacified again. A MRD may be able to eat a SCH solo but against a WHM they can't do anything without external assistance. Cycling through Heavy, Snare, Sprint and Snare. Only reason to die is because your team mates are being an idiot taking too much damage where the WHM has to stand and heal. Most of the time Medica 2 + Regen and occasional spot Cure will keep most teams up.

    SCH I suggest pole dancing with your Eos being manually controlled to heal you. But without CDs up on the MRD, and since 2.15's healing reduction nerf, most of the time you can tank his damage by spamming Adlo on yourself where he rarely has the damage to break Galvanize in one skill hit and auto.
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  2. #52
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    Bk Sandaddy
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Quackley View Post
    Well, that's because it mostly is.

    This game doesn't have enough depth and skill based components to its PvP for it to be much of anything else (like outplaying them for example), we really shouldn't pretend otherwise.
    Other factors might matter some, but not quite so much as the r30s screwing up.

    Gear is honestly that huge.

    It's more their match to lose than the other team's to win, unfortunately.
    So don't look so deep. Something as simple as out running, pillaring, jukes etc. is something that is done at different levels? If I constantly kite someone around the room and they do 2k or cant get a sleep off cuz I am constantly LoSing, whats that called then? Cuz I am pretty sure that has limited to do with my gear.

    I guess I just need you to define outplaying and things you feel are skill based components for arguments sake. its not a strong pvp game, but to claim that its impossible to outplay is rather silly.
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  3. #53
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    Sometimes you get outplayed by 500 Brutal Swing, 1.5k Storms Eye, 600 Auto-As, 1.2k Mythril Tempest and 2.2k Butcher Blocks. And the MRD will just say "Lol sorry drove by~~!" Just like when I play BLM and get Firestarter on every bloody 2.2s cast Fire1 and Thundercloud proccing from Thunder 1 till I can Thunder 3 the whole team. Or that time when that BRD will just keep getting River of Blood proc and all you hear is the cracking of wood...

    Sure you can outplay people in poker. But if someone who has 20x your net worth keeps going all-in for above average hand. It get's frustrating.
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  4. #54
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    Lucipurr's Avatar
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    Estrella Light
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BkSandaddy View Post
    why does As Ura get no love? and don't sleep on Jin Fei.

    on the thread topic tho.....you just run and heal. like any normal match. time his burst with your attune and you will be fine. Sometimes he gets me, sometimes I run and live. just went 3-0 against him before servers went down.
    Yeah As Ura is really good. He's the only non-sadist tank who doesn't queue with their r30 friends
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  5. #55
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    Chachasamu Cocosamu
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    Sometimes you get outplayed by 500 Brutal Swing, 1.5k Storms Eye, 600 Auto-As, 1.2k Mythril Tempest and 2.2k Butcher Blocks. And the MRD will just say "Lol sorry drove by~~!" Just like when I play BLM and get Firestarter on every bloody 2.2s cast Fire1 and Thundercloud proccing from Thunder 1 till I can Thunder 3 the whole team. Or that time when that BRD will just keep getting River of Blood proc and all you hear is the cracking of wood...

    Sure you can outplay people in poker. But if someone who has 20x your net worth keeps going all-in for above average hand. It get's frustrating.
    Have you played BLM in recent weeks? It might just be Aether datacenter, but the influx of decent to skilled MNKs is making things like getting fire1s and thunders off mid fight close to impossible. Whatever cooldowns you have that dont get silenced through (LOL NO DR EVER, WITH NO COOLDOWN) are used to save your ass, not damage.
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  6. #56
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    MNKs can't silent with Arm of Destroyer if he doesn't have Opo-opo stance. If he is keeping Opo-opo stance means he is reducing his damage just to silence you. The Silence can only happen once every 7.5s but by doing that they trade of their most reliable damage - Bootshine crit. It's hard but not impossible, just don't get your heavy/sleep baited by Fetter wards. Just open up with Thunder 1 and surecast Thunder 1 on another one, Scathe run and hope for Thunderclouds. After that it is your game.
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  7. #57
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youmu View Post
    Have you played BLM in recent weeks? It might just be Aether datacenter, but the influx of decent to skilled MNKs is making things like getting fire1s and thunders off mid fight close to impossible. Whatever cooldowns you have that dont get silenced through (LOL NO DR EVER, WITH NO COOLDOWN) are used to save your ass, not damage.
    Have you tried use blizzard 2 that have under 2 sec cast, If you smash button you should get it off.
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  8. #58
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    Seripha Starbane
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Have you tried use blizzard 2 that have under 2 sec cast, If you smash button you should get it off.
    Should work BUT. dont forget auto hit

    Or is interupt not based on auto hits?
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  9. #59
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seripha_Starbane View Post
    Should work BUT. dont forget auto hit

    Or is interupt not based on auto hits?
    no idea about that but most of healers can hardcast their 2sec heals off without any cds
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  10. #60
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Hyperion
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    I find it pretty amusing that there is an entire thread dedicated to how to deal with ONE (legitimate) PvP player.

    Congratulations, Blue Blankets. You have truly made your mark on the PvP world.
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