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    Player
    Kyros's Avatar
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    Character
    Odiron Dulmare
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Trying to have a CD up for every DS is not gonna work on PLD. It is better to play it by ear. Healer in conflag? Pop a CD, HP not-full and DS incoming? Pop a CD. Someone died to conflag? Pop a CD. On all other situations you should have Stoneskin being timed to be before or after the DS. This is good practice for the last 2 phases as well, since you'll need to learn when your healers simply cannot help you.

    WHM should also not be emptying itself here. Let the SCH do the brunt of the healing with Lustrate. WHM's job on the tank should be Regen and SS, but mostly should focus on the party. Only exception is when SCH is conflaged, then by all means dump your mana on the tank.
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    Kimura410's Avatar
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    Kimura Blaze
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 50
    The offtank is a marauder with a bunch of cool downs so hes almost like a dps. Honestly, he didnt have a dps class and I am more geared so he worked with what he could to make himself a dps lol. It is confusing because we used an unorthodox method, a PLD with a marauder off tank. You could say I solo tanked it. The only part he tanked was the big snake until the 4th and 5th snakes appeared, at which point I provoked the big one and tanked all of them. This allowed me to slack on CDs during the phase of only 3 snakes. I tanked everything in the first phase just bc its what the group preferred, they felt it was cleaner bc the adds werent scattered about. Also that early in the fight, I am free to pop every single CD and have them back when I need them.

    I know my post was very lengthy, but when I was trying to pick up tank specific tips before beating T5, I read every single detail I could, so I figured the OP would as well. Or he could flat out ignore it. In the end it doesnt make a difference to me, just attempting to help
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    Last edited by Kimura410; 02-03-2014 at 10:27 AM.

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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Character
    Rui Ooshima
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Out of curiosity, how did your WHM deplete her MP when she's just half way through Phase 2?

    BTW your team's bard should also play Ballad after killing adds in Phase 1 and off it once enters Phase 2 to help topping off your healer's MP
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    JeTaisNoobie's Avatar
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    Eborel Kreuz
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Out of curiosity, how did your WHM deplete her MP when she's just half way through Phase 2?

    BTW your team's bard should also play Ballad after killing adds in Phase 1 and off it once enters Phase 2 to help topping off your healer's MP
    I think the healers need to manage their MP well. My healers never need ballad at all during the entire fight.
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    -Eborel Kreuz
    Leader of The RosenKreuz Orden (RsK), residing in the lovely server of Tonberry


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    Player
    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JeTaisNoobie View Post
    I think the healers need to manage their MP well. My healers never need ballad at all during the entire fight.
    Well, technically they may not need but since OP's team seems to have problems, I guess ballad-ing at P1 may help them a little.

    For me (main BRD) I just ballad after killing the 3 dragon adds in P1 until the nerolink drops, well my MP is there for free so I just use it to keep my healers at 100% MP
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimura410 View Post
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    Ah, alright. Yeah, that's basically the single tank method and MRD deeps are pretty decent (not great, but decent). Just hadn't heard of someone going MRD for T5 before so I was super confused. :P
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    Character
    Pande Monium
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 60
    To manage cd's using a paladin is not complicate, but need practice.

    First at all, use a macro like this

    /p death sentence 30 secs
    /wait 28
    /p death sentence incoming <se.1> (or other sound)

    I put /wait 28 command because i need 2 secs to prepare to use "stoneskin" over me.
    Sometimes could occur, than twintania use "plummet" before death sentence and can interrupt your stoneskin cast, but you recast again.

    Second: Manage your cd correctly. Death sentence is each 30 secs, but the dangerous DS are after phase 2(heal debuff)

    Once the neurolink is dropped and the macro is active, use rampart (90 secs cd) and cast stoneskin. When you see the cast bar on twintania, click the macro.

    The next DS, use bulwark ( 3 mins cd) and cast stoneskin. The next one, same operation changing bulwark by sentinel.

    Now, Rampart will be active to mitigate next DS.

    At this moment, 2nd neurolink must be dropped or nearly. If twintania cast other DS, foresight + convalescence + stoneskin + adloquium + lustrate will be a success.

    On final phase, use the same secuence of coldowns and you can avoid a lot of damage.

    Don't be afraid if you are off cd's and let your OT take twintania.
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    Kimura Blaze
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Ah, alright. Yeah, that's basically the single tank method and MRD deeps are pretty decent (not great, but decent). Just hadn't heard of someone going MRD for T5 before so I was super confused. :P
    Yeah and the crap thing about a marauder is that they do not have provoke, less hp, less defense as well Id bet, and of course less stats. More dps than a WAR, but at that point you may as well just bring another dps. I dont recommend it lol. But as I said, our WAR doesnt have an alt so yea, thats how we are doing it atm
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