[ Dev's ] Gear Swaps Can I have It?

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

Only thing I really miss from FFXI is the epic skill macros people had. My best was in the dunes when I first started the game at NA release.

There was a monk who every time he boosted.

/shout "I'M GETTING STRONGER!!!!!"

best macro ever.

Nah, best macro ever was boostu.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

no no no, a thousand times no.... gear swaps where the most bothersome thing in FFXI

My DRG was no to bad, but on jobs, like my DNC, I was swapping stuff out with almost every action I did.

[Amage]

Well it seems this Topic hurts ppl right where it hurts . As it turns out if FFXI would have not had gear swaps as one of its elements of its game it would have lasted 1/4 time it did . People would have done kings for the duration of the expansion and move on never really having the best gear at all only best at the time

Yes this game change gear system is slow and at this point in time gear swaps aren't needed but if this is going to be a game were i can beat every content release in 2 weeks and gear is gotten and dropped with every update then this for sure isnt where im going to spend my money for SE to waste my time i play .

Take a look at retainer system vs. Auction house , retainers are a great idea and everything but hurts the economy with showing the prices of items which are sold so now everyone can undercut everyone else buy 1000s -1000000s of gil just to make quick sales . also the fact wards right now are full and for those whos retainers arent logged into wards cant get them on because its full is BS now instead of camping Tiamat or Fafnir im camping to get a mule in correct wards or any ward for that matter.sorry about this rant but yeah

gear swaps would make game best in my eyes

[Ilean]

this for sure isnt where im going to spend my money for SE to waste my time i play

lul /ragequit gogogo!

[Amage]

lul /ragequit gogogo!

no no no rage quit . in order to rage quit there would have to be an element of ridiculous stupidity in this game and to be honest this game is on retarded easy mode .. and i cheer for you troll of these forums .

[Amage]

To put this to bed. If this game survives DO YOU REALLY THINK that the Endgame shells from 11 wont be holding and keeping HNM or NM and selling its mats for gear either way , Gear swapping or no gear swapping its the truth

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

Well it seems this Topic hurts ppl right where it hurts . As it turns out if FFXI would have not had gear swaps as one of its elements of its game it would have lasted 1/4 time it did

You mean like how all the games that don't have gear swaps lasted just fine? Everquest is still around, you know.

ok ok here something you should have learned in FFXI so it seems u joined after abyssea you can make cure macro's to a player

/ma "Cure IV" <p1> and so on and in alliance <a1> <a2> etc etc ... so blinking wouldnt effect in any way because the code would find player either blinking or not hehhehehehe nice try go back get brady games handbook LMAO

It's funny, for someone whose name is "a mage" you've obviously never played a mage job. Nobody is going to make 6-18x the number of macros just to handle people blinking. That's the stupidest suggestion I have ever heard (and believe me, as a judge at the Northwest Annual Stupid Suggestion Contest from 2008 to 2010 (and soon at the 2011 meet in July), I've heard some pretty stupid suggestions).

As much as I loved SpellCast (which I of course never used because that's a third-party plugin) and having intricate macros setting optimal gear for every spell, every ability, every situation... That is one part of FFXI that I hope FFXIV never emulates.

Switching weapons in combat I accept and am all for. Biggest reason I dislike the Armory system: you can't switch to a knife without becoming an entirely different person.

Changing your pants several times throughout a fight is ridiculous.

I just want to add to this:

If my character is somehow fast enough and dexterous enough to change clothes in under a second all while warding off attacks from hostile foes, casting spells, and running, then why on earth is his attack speed so slow?

Even Bruce Lee couldn't change his pants twice a second so, until S-E makes my level 1 thaumaturge faster than the greatest martial artist of all time, keep your gear swaps where they belong: not here.

[Amage]

You mean like how all the games that don't have gear swaps lasted just fine? Everquest is still around, you know.



It's funny, for someone whose name is "a mage" you've obviously never played a mage job. Nobody is going to make 6-18x the number of macros just to handle people blinking. That's the stupidest suggestion I have ever heard (and believe me, as a judge at the Northwest Annual Stupid Suggestion Contest from 2008 to 2010 (and soon at the 2011 meet in July), I've heard some pretty stupid suggestions).



I just want to add to this:

If my character is somehow fast enough and dexterous enough to change clothes in under a second all while warding off attacks from hostile foes, casting spells, and running, then why on earth is his attack speed so slow?

Even Bruce Lee couldn't change his pants twice a second so, until S-E makes my level 1 thaumaturge faster than the greatest martial artist of all time, keep your gear swaps where they belong: not here.

Ok homie i was saying it was an example now Amage or A mage as you say never played a mage hmmmmmmmmmmm

ohh here an example
90 PLD MNK WAR 75 BRD SAM w/ all different sets for these jobs + Dring
2nd character 75 BLm WHM RDM brD SMN MAIN WAS BLM ALL GeAR HQ AND endgame

all sets of gear swaps and everything not an elite by no means i just was schooled in the way of my jobs

[Wynn]

Dear God, no...

Gear swapping was the worst cheese ever to come out of XI. It also encourages elitism. How often have we heard the term "fulltiming" with the implication that the speaker just threw up a little bit just by saying the word?

In fact, here is a post from a rather scholarly fellow on another board that illustrates my point quite nicely:

So much stupid in this thread.

The only reason you'd not want to use gear swaps in ffxi...

1) you suck
2) you're too poor to get any worthwhile equipment and fulltime useless shit and are therefore gimp. you could be the best gamer in the history of the universe, but you're still gimp without the equipment to back it up in ffxi
3) you're playing on a lolconsole. ffxi isn't woth playing on a console. the restrictions on macros alone are proof of that. 6 lines is maybe enough for lvs 1-70, but after that you need more unless you want to hit more than 1 macro for each action... which sucks.
4) you're too stupid to realise the obvious advantage gained from swapping equipment.
5) you're stupid enough to think that swapping gear mid-battle is "unrealistic"... and casting magic, fighting dragons/anything with the delay based combat, TP/HP/MP, the fact you can't step up a tiny little wall but apparently save the world from being destroyed is realisitc? stfu.
6) you're too stupid to realise that <stpt> amd <stal> were added eons ago so it's impossible to lose a target due to equipment change. blinkmenot works too.

The way you do your macros, how you use them and the way you try and improve vasious gear sets is a good half of the game imo. It's the stratergy part of ffxi and without it, you'd have nothing to aim for hardly. jobs would be 50x weaker and events would take way more people.

it alows SE it add more and more equipment with each update without making everything that you have equipped completly useless. this avoid the huge bottle-neck of everyone on the server trying to get the same pieces of equipment with each update.

FFXI isn't WoW. You need more than 1 equipment set to get things done with the best efficiency.

FFXIV is pretty obviously meant to compete with WoW. It's not a replacement for FFXI and never will be. It's pretty clear that it's designed at more casual/lazy players and thus will most likely require less time/effort/work to get to the "top".


You dont want to swap equipment in ffxi? fine, that's your choice. But dont expect to stay in my xp parties or endgame groups if you're not prepared to pull your weight like everyone else there. It's not fair on the group otherwise.


Oh, and for the record... I had 7 lv 75s before the lv cap increase and fine for inventory space. A lot of the best equipment is usable by more than one job, and while it may not be the absolute best piece for that slot (eg mermans rings... useful for THF COR NIN(mdb) RNG instead of behemoth+1 for Racc and mermans for nin) they're more than good enough to get the job done without gimping my performance.

Use your head, have some courtesy and stop being such a burden to the group you're with.

/rantoff

inb4 "omg eletist".

[viion]

I liked it because it ment I had variety, atm I have the best gear for mage and it cant get better unless I go +3 everything, but getting +3 would just be elitism and that is what gear swapping is, its elitism, so most of you here are most likely hypocrites.

Instead of "do you have XYZ?" it will be "You dont have any +3 gtfo".

And due to the armour system it will be "do you have xyz spell? gtfo", i do it, if you dont have cure/sac 2 i dont wanna play with you, you suck.

So you're all glad you dont have to have 100 pieces of armour, but now you need 100 skills from levelling all the different classes up.

Just replacing 1 thing with another

Although I like that its not in because it did make some thing stough, you are all well over exaggerating it, take a SAM, all you needed was a Haste set and a STR set and you'd be fine for 99.9% of things.

Or... play with friends who wont be picky about xyz stats.