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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionheart View Post
    If I wanted a game based on RL I'd play Sims lol... dont come with poor arguments please... I'm very open to discussion, really, that's what this forums are for, discussing and come with good ideas for devs. Please don't come arguing with no sense answers ^^
    Your entire argument was that it was "thrilling"...that is an opinion/emotion that you have. I won't state my opinion/emotion because it's not suitable for young ears. No different from your argument. Just the opposite one. Gear swapping is NOT thrilling.
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    The whole concept of changing your clothing mid-battle is ridiculous though. Even in other games it's completely out of the question.

    If I'm fighting a Rathalos in Monster Hunter I can't just say "Hold on, I need to switch to my status effect + gear to use these throwing knives, then back to my element attack + gear to start fighting you with my sword again!" I plan ahead and use what I think is best for that fight. You can't do everything, go with what you think is most effective.

    Even still as far as MMOs as a whole go you don't see other games allowing you to switch gear mid-battle outside of FFXI. Most suffer from the "1 optimal set" problem but that has nothing to do with switching mid-battle.

    Allowing people to switch mid-battle and operate all roles in a single battle goes back to the argument that all classes feel the same and even within the same class the roles are barely diversified. If you have to plan out your gear beforehand with no mid-battle swaps then at least you may have different people playing different roles. Isn't that what everyone wanted? More class/role diversification and not allowing everyone to do everything?
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    while I'm against FFXI-like gear swapping during fight, would be nice for long fights to be able to change 1 (one) piece of equipment every x minutes (like 3 or 5). Just to add a lil versatility without the FFXI-like chaos

    of course this would exclude equipping a weapon of a different class (aka, switching class)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiren View Post
    while I'm against FFXI-like gear swapping during fight, would be nice for long fights to be able to change 1 (one) piece of equipment every x minutes (like 3 or 5). Just to add a lil versatility without the FFXI-like chaos
    you can, you just suffer a uncomfortable debuff for awhile. essentially they just didnt want it to be on the level of ffxi 1 second macro gear swaps. you can change your strategies, actions and gear in a fight, but you will have to put away your weapon, and suffer some debuff time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    you can, you just suffer a uncomfortable debuff for awhile. essentially they just didnt want it to be on the level of ffxi 1 second macro gear swaps. you can change your strategies, actions and gear in a fight, but you will have to put away your weapon, and suffer some debuff time.
    Wow...a completely sensible mechanic...who would have thought it. I can swap gear anytime I want already. There's just a time/penalty associated with doing so while being stomped on by a giant buffalo.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySUp9...eature=related

    Please don't turn this into FFX-2.14
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    I know it, but I dont like the debuff so I would prefer the system I proposed :P
    Give us a 5 min "recast" before being able to change a piece of equipment again, maybe forcing us to going in passive mode first too*; but no debuff please! That's just a silly punishment imho


    *and, btw, that wouldnt be so nice either, especially for claim issues, etc
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    Lol at people that says no-gear-swap = the end of the world.

    You can still make gears situational and not makes gears obselete after 3 months, in a game where 4man parties is to be expected alot in the future, you would need alot of gears set to be versatile to adapt to alot of situation. Also, what is the point of having content lasts for more than a year? No one in their right mind would fafnir for 3 years if it didn't drop the best equips, it is a horrible design of a content, no one should fight that horribly easy lizard that people call a challenge in ffxi for more than 1 year.
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    Last edited by Chardrizard; 07-01-2011 at 09:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Lol at people that says no-gear-swap = the end of the world.
    Gear swap actually made a lot of crafted gear useful and kept crafters in business before it degraded into a consumables only market in FFXI -- people worry about crafting classes in xiv getting the shaft but heavily against anything that promotes making them central.
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