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    Gidonoidon_Sur's Avatar
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    Must say, the evidence is starting to pile up that this might go the WoW-ish route, which to me is scary. Between the uncapped dungeons, teleporting magically anywhere at any rank for any reason, and to this; I am kind of worried. Not to mention there is 0 to work toward at this point minus say guildmarks and some faction gear (which is really an after thought, similar to merit points in FFXI). I think this game will be good, but it might be 2 years from now.
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    Well, they better think up something as a long term reward for doing content X,Y,Z...

    I predict people either skipping to the newest content or IF there is a requirement like content X must be done to do content Y, people will only do content X once and it will become a pain in the butt to find people willing to do it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post


    Well, they better think up something as a long term reward for doing content X,Y,Z...

    I predict people either skipping to the newest content or IF there is a requirement like content X must be done to do content Y, people will only do content X once and it will become a pain in the butt to find people willing to do it again.
    I remember running into this in FFXI, too. Not sure where the rose tinted glasses are being sold in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I remember running into this in FFXI, too. Not sure where the rose tinted glasses are being sold in this thread.
    if this was happening it was many many years after the content was added not 60days after. they are pre'empting a fix for things that won't happen for years, but still adding content that will die out in months.

    there are many other ways to fix this other then gear swaps, but gear swapping was a way none the less. racing to the latest content is a stupid idea. having empty zones is a stupid idea. gear swaps weren't stupid they were just implemented wrong.

    they should at the very least make every spell and move have the option to have say 6scrolls, all the scrolls are scatered in the nm's, hnm's, dungeons and missions. that way the more of them u have the better your spells improve, just like gear swaps but u never gotta make macros or swap gear. u don't need to get the scrolls like the gear but if u did it helped in the same manners. u can skip it ..if want ..till last spells and moves. the main thing is not to kill content and to make it worth having everything.

    being a nitch class is dumb to me, i then don't want to take the time to gear anything else. i'll grab my niche gear, say i'm a niche class, and play my niche game. granted the few that can switch to any gear when needed will be needed players but it's not necessary and in no way will make u want to spend that extra time doing so.
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    The only active gear switching I want to see encouraged by this game is arrow switching.

    (and even then, only if it adds something positive to the game)
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    I guess I could warm up to the idea...Does seem ridiculous to change gear while fighting. I guess I am afraid more of the implications (one piece of gear is best) and therefore everyone spams that event and everyone looks the same etc. If they can avoid that I guess I don't care that I can't change midcast.
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    I am pleased with this dev post
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    I'm glad we won't have gear swapping mid-battle. I really didn't like that element of XI. I'd much rather the game keep me involved through creative new challenges and interesting story-based content as opposed to hunting for new shoes over and over because I have to wear something different for every spell I cast.

    That's not to say that there should be one gear set to rule them all; optimally, the "best" gear should depend on the battle strategy you wish to employ. Creative bosses and battle situations sometimes require a change in strategy and a corresponding change in gear before the battle begins. But allowing gear swapping during battle (in addition to looking ridiculous) creates a situation where gear sets are too numerous and too specialized. To allow it would be to require it, as the battle system would have to be balanced around its existence. No thanks.
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    Well within the same class/role you would likely see people with the same gear like all Gladiator Tanks would have a set of gear but that's different from Pugilist Tanks. Similarly Pugilist Tank gear would be different from Pugilist DD gear. It's already kind of this way except you have a lot of the gear being shared between classes for similar roles, this is especially obvious with mages.

    To achieve good diversification they'd have to break gear down from broad to specific, example:
    Conjurer > Black Mage > Nuker > Water

    You start off with the most broad gear, gear simply for Conjurer and then start getting more specific by selecting the job, role within the job and then a specific build for that role.

    To do this for the Disciples of War they would have to make multiple builds within any role viable for the jobs. Like having Vitality builds and Dexterity builds be viable for tanking for all jobs. Gladiators/Paladins would use bigger heavier armor/bigger shields/bigger swords for Vitality builds but the lighter armor/smaller shields/shorter swords for a Dexterity build. I say Dexterity instead of Evasion simply because for something like Marauder Dexterity means Parry. Currently this isn't quite as possible but it should be looked into.
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    Taiga Inktooth
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    I never really liked the whole gear swapping in XI, but then again I never hated it either. It was just a little headache. I highly doubt they will bring it back though. Right now, there is so much effort to prevent you from gear swapping. It seems that the developers really don't want people to do it.
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