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    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    I say please leave them uncapped.. I like the sense that I can solo, duo , or trio them at a higher level..

    Making the capped will make it like ffxi, which would cause waiting for party members and such... no thanks.
    Players are not going to be able to solo, duo or trio the dungeons: "Rank 25+ raids will require four players to enter, and rank 45+ raids will require a full party of 8". Won't be able to DC from the party on purpose to try and solo it either I don't think as they have already stated that if you DC and re-log then you will re-join the party. Unless your other party members are prepared to not log back in for an hour! lol

    Anyway, I voted for having it capped. Although I see both sides of the argument, there is no real compromise I can see to make everyone happy but the main argument in the other thread seems to concern not having a challenge if rank 50s are allowed into a low level dungeon. So, although it takes freedom of choice away from players to make up their own minds, lets cap them and get it over and done with!

    Cap the 25+ dungeon from 25-45 maybe with scaled content appropriate (perhaps also helping with more replay value for the lower level dungeon and gear because of the bigger range in ranks/levels that can enter), and the 45+ dungeon from 45-50 with extremely challenging content (kind of endgame but not really if you see what I mean). ?
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    I can see the other sides points as well, but if the r30 dungeon is capped, I will simply ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Or the people with high ranks should try the R50 dungeon, that's where the difficulty is. If you're going to b**** about the difficulty of the R30 dungeon while playing through it as a R50, then you're not right in the head.
    And if you can't comprehend that people like challenging R30 content just as much as R50 content you don't have what it takes to contribute advice to a MMORPG developer.

    The difficulty should be in both areas. R30 is not inherently easier than R50. R50 is not inherently better than R30. You fail the task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    And if you can't comprehend that people like challenging R30 content just as much as R50 content you don't have what it takes to contribute advice to a MMORPG developer.

    The difficulty should be in both areas. R30 is not inherently easier than R50. R50 is not inherently better than R30. You fail the task.
    Exactly the two Dungeons are ment to pose a "Difficulty Setting". By Using R50's in a R30 Dungeons it defeats the purpose of the word "Difficulty".

    This is the exact reason why it needs to be capped (at least the R30 Dungeon anyhow). R50 Dungeon doesn't need to be capped since cap is already @ R50 :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    And if you can't comprehend that people like challenging R30 content just as much as R50 content you don't have what it takes to contribute advice to a MMORPG developer.

    The difficulty should be in both areas. R30 is not inherently easier than R50. R50 is not inherently better than R30. You fail the task.
    What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking about R50s complaining about the difficulty of something that wasn't made for their rank. They should go to the R50 dungeon if they want something challenging for their R50 character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Exactly the two Dungeons are ment to pose a "Difficulty Setting". By Using R50's in a R30 Dungeons it defeats the purpose of the word "Difficulty".

    This is the exact reason why it needs to be capped (at least the R30 Dungeon anyhow). R50 Dungeon doesn't need to be capped since cap is already @ R50 :P
    Sorry, but at r50 I don't see anything challenging about a r30, 4 man dungeon.
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    I don't care.
    Anytime soon SE will increase the lvl cap. I'll start to bother there at higher level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Sorry, but at r50 I don't see anything challenging about a r30, 4 man dungeon.
    But if you were capped to an appropriate rank/level of 30 on your MRD in the 4 man dungeon, it would be challenging would it not >.>?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Sorry, but at r50 I don't see anything challenging about a r30, 4 man dungeon.
    Capping to 30 @ the R30 Dungeon "is" Challenging.
    Leaving the R30 Dungeon uncapped isn't Challenging. (which will result in people crying about it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shika View Post
    But if you were capped to an appropriate rank/level of 30 on your MRD in the 4 man dungeon, it would be challenging would it not >.>?
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Capping to 30 @ the R30 Dungeon "is" Challenging.
    Leaving the R30 Dungeon uncapped isn't Challenging. (which will result in people crying about it.)
    If I wanted challenging r30 content, I'll run it at r30. Being past that point, there is no reward for me worth taking 60 minutes of my game time to run through content that I passed by 20 levels ago.
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