BLM skill suggestion for movement heavy dungeons

[Beetle]

To be honest I feel BLM are really powerful with their huge burst of damage.

blm isnt really that good for burst damage in some fights. Its still required to bring them to some fights mainly just for limit and aoes. blms can make short work on garuda extreme. If timing good can lb3 the garuda & sisters as they spawn in the middle of the arena. Do something like 60k dmg. WHich is like -13% garuda hp, -55% on both sisters.

[Aldehido]

I somewhat disagree with the original poster.
There are ways that a BLM can nuke effectively in movement heavy fights by making use of your CDs and using spells like Scathe when you're moving.
As a BLM I haven't seen my dmg drop significantly on fights that you used as an example. Then again, even if we suffer on those fights, physical DPS suffer in some other fights.

[Xenor]

I've never had a problem in Ultima or Haukke Hard. There's plenty time for casting in Ultima and for the Haukke boss you should make a lot of use of sprint, a tool melees can't use. I pretty much carried a first time MNK through that fight last week who couldn't stay alive.

Titan EM has a high learning curve for BLM but you can achieve high DPS if you know where to be when. You don't have to stack as soon as the weight goes off, stand there until you get a fire or thunder proc then move back. Know when the bombs are coming in phase 2 so that after the weights that come before you might already be in place for them if they drop in the right place. Use Scathe, Manawall and Sprint to your advantage. BLM is also highly useful in the fight for the caster LB3, it makes things much smoother in the latter part of the fight.

[DGMart]

I have no problems on my main as blm, if you know the encounters 100%. You will know exactly where to stand and cast while moving. Yes you can cast while moving. It takes practice just like anything else but I can promise you that a blm that's gear capped can do just as much damage as any other class.

[Ronyx]

I have no problems on my main as blm, if you know the encounters 100%. You will know exactly where to stand and cast while moving. Yes you can cast while moving. It takes practice just like anything else but I can promise you that a blm that's gear capped can do just as much damage as any other class.

Disagree... there are fights in which you can have bad luck and be target and will have to constantly move. Like in Ultima or Ifrit if you are one of the targets of the eruptions you will have to keep moving and moving and moving until those ends. Ultima is another fight where BLM cant DPS well because of all the movement it involves. You cant predict were to stand when you are being focus by the Boss abilities.

[Radacci]

Disagree... there are fights in which you can have bad luck and be target and will have to constantly move. Like in Ultima or Ifrit if you are one of the targets of the eruptions you will have to keep moving and moving and moving until those ends. Ultima is another fight where BLM cant DPS well because of all the movement it involves. You cant predict were to stand when you are being focus by the Boss abilities.

the same goes for anyone, that gets targeted by eruptions, gaols. Has NOTHING to do with BLM. Only one not affected by eruptions, is BRD. Everyone else will loose DPS/heals.

[Gesser]

Simple Solution: give Surecast move-and-cast for 10 seconds.

Also people underestimate you can weave in a Scathe cast as you finish a cast & begin to move, and soon after.

[Zaels]

Yes please! As of right now, Surecast is pretty useless. I was really hoping that "cast without interruption" included movement interrupting a cast.

[Hitome]

The thing with BLM is there is a huge difference between a mediocre BLM and a good BLM.

Let's take Titan Ex for example where many in this thread say BLM is terrible.

A good BLM does the following:

-Stays away from grouping near people pre-heart to avoid landslide which causes you to interrupt casts
-Uses aetherial manipulation to get to the group when Titan jumps
-Immediately switches to the far gaol as soon as the first one dies which is a DPS increase for only the ranged class since melee have to wait for upheavel to touch it
-Uses manawall to negate the need to move on tri-landslide
-Uses aetherial manipulation to get out of the half arena bomb so little movement is needed (cast till bombs are about to blow up > AM to party member > dodge landslide and keep casting
-Saves procs when he knows he needs to move
-Uses 'slide' to maximize damage for appropriate positioning and so that you work with the GCD timer (meaning you are always casting even if it looks like you're moving)
-Uses manaward on tumults or bombs or geocrushes
-Uses raging strikes at the appropriate time during heart phase. The appropriate time is the lull in the battle you have till Titan summons his circular bombs
-Delivers insane burst damage to the two adds via flare
-Gets a firestarter proc before the two gaols are set up so that he may flare the first gaol on Titan and fire 3 the other that the healer is often in in the back
-Uses sprint every chance he gets on plumes so that you can instantly get to a safe spot and start casting while your GCD timer is ticking
-Uses manawall to negate the X bomb landslide (and possibly manaward to negate the bomb damage) so that you can constantly damage the adds without interruption
-Uses quelling when adds spawn
-Multidots thunder when appropriate to increase probability of thundercloud procs (this has useful applications outside of Titan Ex like on Caduceus)
-Abuses the hell out of sprint + manaward/manawall to get into position before anyone else in the group can while taking minimum damage

And, of course, using eye and virus when appropriate.

Slide is actually the most important. This means that, when your spell goes off and you know you have to move, you are 'sliding' into a position where you intend to be after GCD has been invoked. This means the decrease in damage due to movement is minimized (quite a bit on Titan Ex, actually) because you can't cast a spell if the GCD timer hasn't run its full duration anyways.

Know how many BLMs I've come across who do any of this? 1. Betcha Amon could give you some more tips.

[Radacci]

Well that's interesting, since my BLM is top dps, in 95% of all TitanX runs, and Ultima too...and every other fight in the game. Doesn't matter if ppl are higher ilv or not, or what jobs they have.
It's not BLM that sux, it's 99% of players that sux, and make BLM look bad. I even seen tanks do more damage than DRG/BRDs.
Only seen about a handful of ppl, out-dps my blm, more than 10%
ppl should just stop this stupid shit, of blaming gear or certain jobs.
It's PLAYER SKILL (except for coil, where you need certain accuracy, and even then player skill is the deciding factor)

About Ultima fight, you're just exaggerating.
Move pre-emptively, for everything except bits, and then you can alternate between Fire3 and Blizzard3, since Fire buff, gives faster cast for blizzard (to keep stacks up). Or scathe is fine, since it has a chance for 2x potency.
Just get ppl to focus-burn bits, to kill a few before ships drop. Then there's less lasers to dodge.
And if you wanna talk about stacks, try playing MNK, first. Mnk without stacks, is like BLM using only scathe.

Snip.

Good tips, i dont do most of that, and still do top damage most of the time, should be quite telling, how shitty most ppl are ^^

tldr: BLM is awesome, 99% of players, suck.