I just got kicked from CT for pulling too fast, by a pre-made

[PArcher]

Absolutely not, if they are within the 'zone' that seals off, then they are ready for an encounter. If you had to have every member of a group verbally confirm before every pull, or be at risk of "harassment/cheating" as a tank, you would get precisely 0 tanks ever in your DF.

Yeah...no. Lots of people go into the zone instinctively because there are so many impatient tanks who just run in and aggro everything, and many tanks just ignore people outside the zone anyway

Typing "/a Group A is ready" in chat and waiting for a response, or "/a Other groups ready?" isn't hard, and once you get "Group B ready" and "Group C ready" you can pull.

And then, there's KB...where you need to ask who is tanking what and often has a good few minutes downtime before the pull, even when everyone is in the arena...

[Squa]

Yeah...no. Lots of people go into the zone instinctively because there are so many impatient tanks who just run in and aggro everything, and many tanks just ignore people outside the zone anyway

Typing "/a Group A is ready" in chat and waiting for a response, or "/a Other groups ready?" isn't hard, and once you get "Group B ready" and "Group C ready" you can pull.

And then, there's KB...where you need to ask who is tanking what and often has a good few minutes downtime before the pull, even when everyone is in the arena...

So you are literally asking for confirmation verbally from 3 groups, each with 8 members, so you need 24 people to communicate before a trash pull, and then each alliance to communicate together so, so 27 total communications ... u r doing it wrong. How many people does it take to change a lightbulb in your place of residence may I ask?

Bosses are different and maybe need a little coordination beforehand. If people are not ready outside the "lock out" zone, then that is a different story. In fact if you aren't ready you shouldn't enter the pull zone, that is simple communication for the tanks to wait. And I am going to go out on a huge limb and say you have never played a tank.

[PArcher]

And I am going to go out on a huge limb and say you have never played a tank.

Swing and missed by a mile.

I regularly tank CT as WAR and PLD, MT, OT, tower and claw duty. I've done it all. Also have healed (even solo-healed the KB MT...yep, other heal got locked-out) and DPSed.

And yes...asking if everyone is ready is just common courtesy.

[Reinheart]

Communication skills, use it.
Don't assume everyone is ready, if you're going to be the first one pulling then you're taking the role to lead the whole CT group to win/death so it's your responsibility to check. You didn't do that and just went in assuming everone was ready = ended up in you getting kicked. Lesson learned for next time you start the pull, right?

Move along, nothing to see here folks.

[TaranNos]

That is ridiculous. If people are in the area AND op gave them 10 seconds, he's fine to pull. If one group has a mass 5 minute AFK, it's on them to warn the raid. If one person has to go pee, who cares, it's trash. It's not like anyone actually ever asks who's ready within the parties before announcing ready in alliance chat.

[valho]

Well players in my server do, 1 person from each team will say ok, then only we go, of course the person representing the party does not go asking everyone in his/her party whether they are ready. If someone in the party is not ready they will mention in their own party chat, and the representative will just inform the alliance. Common courtesy and it doesn't take long. But in OP case no one bother to communicate between each team, OP team assume the other teams are not ready because they never said anything and proceeded to kick OP for pulling. This wouldn't have happen if 1 person from each team would just take a few second so say they are ready.

[ZephyrAM]

The only problem here is that you knew it was an issue, and you proceeded to do it anyway, ignoring everything being said.

Sometimes things are fine, sometimes not; don't assume every group is the same. Basically, be considerate, or accept the consequences.

[AiChyan]

Swing and missed by a mile.

I regularly tank CT as WAR and PLD, MT, OT, tower and claw duty. I've done it all. Also have healed (even solo-healed the KB MT...yep, other heal got locked-out) and DPSed.

And yes...asking if everyone is ready is just common courtesy.

Yes.
Or you simply say "pulling in 20 seconds", and if no one says anything you instinctively know everyone is ready and just pull. Its really simple & doesn't hurt as much as wiping 344534 because a tank just decided to pull when half the alliances were away.

[xagarelic]

Why is there nothing in place to prevent this?

I can't seem to find something intelligent to said about this, it's probably the coffee

[Lordfurious]

They are absolutely not within their rights to kick him, which is reserved only for strict circumstances like cheating
when you can't find tanks for instances or have long wait times in queue.

Sometimes vote-kick can be useful. I have tried to help new players learn their roles, and am patient with them. However, when your wiping on every pull it's either vote abandon or vote-kick. When a dps waits 45 minutes I understand those vote-kicks. I play mainly tanks and healers. Those situations hopefully will drive the player kicked to improve. But I absolutely agree with not kicking someone over 1 piece of gear, or pulling too fast or too slow. If someone is constantly rushing in on boss when all are not ready and wiping...well that's a different story. I do not think there is a good solution to it though. Just make the best of it and have fun. After all thats why we play right?