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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Vedis and Durti, you'd be okay with being allowed to run through the dungeon as R50 as long as you get no drops for it? i.e. all you'd be doing is exploring and killing stuff for no reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Vedis and Durti, you'd be okay with being allowed to run through the dungeon as R50 as long as you get no drops for it? i.e. all you'd be doing is exploring and killing stuff for no reward.
    Absolutely not. One way or the other, preferential treatment benefits no one.
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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Absolutely not. One way or the other, preferential treatment benefits no one.
    But the fact that you can steamroll through it means you get the gear easier than someone who goes through with a party of R30s. Without a level cap, R50's (and their lazy friends) get preferential treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    But the fact that you can steamroll through it means you get the gear easier than someone who goes through with a party of R30s. Without a level cap, R50's (and their lazy friends) get preferential treatment.
    Not if EVERYONE in the game can do it. Sorry, you're wrong. See my above post too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Not if EVERYONE in the game can do it. Sorry, you're wrong. See my above post too.
    heres the thing i dont get with you and vedis, do you think the game shouldnt be challenging till you are level 50? because thats what you seem to promote.

    matsui said
    "Reform Concept
    Fostering Skillful Play
    Creating a battle system that fosters skillful play.
    "

    is that a world you want to play in, because yes the fact that people can over level content will effect everyone who does said content. at the very least, it alters the standard/default behavior, in an uncapped system, most people doing the content will be above level, if the gear is best till 36, then everyone up to level 36 will have a real reason to go there, and people who just want the item.
    A random party will probably look like
    25 30 35 48 in level distribution, in that case the average party will have no difficulty or challenge, the default setting becomes easy mode. very anti battle reform idealogy.
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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Not if EVERYONE in the game can do it. Sorry, you're wrong. See my above post too.
    This...

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Absolutely not. One way or the other, preferential treatment benefits no one.
    and this...

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    I am already 50. I don't need r30 gear to progress.
    and this...

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    If I just want to see an explore, why do I have to take 60 minutes to do it?
    and this have convinced me that you're just trolling. Further conversation with you is pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Vedis and Durti, you'd be okay with being allowed to run through the dungeon as R50 as long as you get no drops for it? i.e. all you'd be doing is exploring and killing stuff for no reward.
    i wouldnt be ok with that
    we deserve it as much as the people who are r30(we may not need it, but we deserve it)

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    i'd be fine running through with a difficulty slider or scaled down on my r50 to r30 during the dungeon, but to say that i can not go into the dungeon to help a ls mate at all i am not fine with.
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    we need caps in this game or it's just gonna be failed content.
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    Caps, im not sure about the Loot, it better be something diffrent or close to "FFXI" / "WoW" type
    where some loot can be upgraded, hard earned via maybe beastcoins / currency.

    Thats what made many ppl in both FFXI & WoW go hardcore, doing regular runs
    instead of just zerging through 1 dungeon never to be done ever again.

    We need somethign to drive us through longer periods of time, to strive for, then later be proud of.
    Isnt that why we have LS atm and no Company...where we were suppose to work together?

    Man...i really hope SE / Dev's understand this and take it into consideration if they want to get game back on it's feet.
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    I used to be Noomy...then i took shiva's Hail Storm to my knee...

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