Confirmation of Uncapped Raids. Confirmation of a terrible decision.

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

Disappointed in this decision. No sense of challenge if a group of 50s can run through zone and find out all the strategies for pulls/etc without fear of death. Plus, it will reduce the number of people who will actually want to go through the content at level 25 rank. Why bother when you can have an LS mate do it or just pay someone to run you through?

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

We care because the ability for you to do so ruins game balance for the entire game.

Opinion does not equal fact.

[Richard]

Then they enter the dungeon in their R30 job and it will be challenging.

"But I don't have a R30 job anymore!"

In this case, why should you care if the dungeon has a cap or not? In fact, not having the cap is actually good for you, you will still be able to at the very least take a look at the dungeon and get some of it's rewards, even if they are useless.

Also, how exactly having a cap increases the challenge for the dungeon?

"Oh..you cannot ask your R50 friend to steamroll it"

FUN FACT:

Anyone calling out their R50 friend do clear the dungeon is NOT wanting a challenge at all.

I care because I don't want to coast through the game? I want a challenge? The four R30's will have a much harder time than the four R50's in the dungeon that is how it makes it more challenging. On personal preference I wouldnt steamroll it or have a friend do it either. If I want a casual baby game I'll go play WoW.

[Eekiki]

there is a different between cheating and playing the game above the designed levels
one is legal, the other isnt

this isnt about illegal play

Cheat codes, traditionally, are put into the game by the programmers themselves. They are features already included in the game, and therefore not illegal. But thank you for missing my point.

You say we're angry because the R30 dungeon isn't endgame content. I think you're arguing because level caps would mean you wouldn't be able to show off your string of R50 classes by bulldozing a dungeon with your e-peen.

[Ogun_Riastradh]

One problem here is that there is a difference of opinions. The bigger problem is that you all think your opinions (capped) are more important than ours (uncapped), when really, the only opinion that matters here is that of the Devs (uncapped).

And the problem you are having is not completely understanding our point. If they can set voluntary scaling on leves, why can't they implement voluntary level caps on the lower rank dungeons. If you want to take the easy way out and steamroll though at 50 or hold some noobs hand through it, knock yourself out. But for those of us that want more of a challenge and think it would make it more worthwhile and true FF experience, then let us scale our ranks on our preferred jobs.

[AdvancedWind]

The right way to do things is to Scale down a R.50 to R.30 if they want to do a R.30 instance instead of allowing them to retain all their abilities/gear that is above R.30. This gives the dungeon a challenge and meaning to people above R.30. It doesn't hurt the mid content players but expands the content to even higher level players.

This is something I agree with

[Richard]

One problem here is that there is a difference of opinions. The bigger problem is that you all think your opinions (capped) are more important than ours (uncapped), when really, the only opinion that matters here is that of the Devs (uncapped).

I asked for a compromise with a voluntary level cap option. The opinions of the Dev Team for the last 2-3 years in designing this game is why its still F2P. The Dev's care about the community opinion more than you think. I.E. Auto Attack and Instanced Dungeons.

[TheVedis]

I gave the suggestion of making it a voluntary level cap for people who actually care for a challenge or for people who just want to play baby games.

voluntary level cap is the same as putting the difficulty slider on it

if it was a choice its not a bad thing
but people dont want a choice, they want to force us to play it at r30(go read alot of other peoples posts, especialy the ones telling me that a difficulty slider is unacceptable cuz people wont use it)
by the same reasoning, why make it voluntary when people obviously wont use it


there are 2 big concerns here with people wanting a cap

1) Its not about what they do, they care what others do, they dont want others to get stuff easier then they do, so everyone else must be forced to play it how they want(forced cap)

2) Some people are afraid that without a cap, no one will want to do the dungeon at the designed level. Just because people have 50s, they wont use a lower job to do it at all..



in case 1, its just people who obviously care too much about what other people do, their opinion is pretty invalid as far as im concerned, its not about their enjoyment, its about them forcing their will on others

in case 2, its a valid concern, although i think the fact is, people put way too little faith in other peoples abilities to want to do it at the lower levels if they are asked to, or advertised thats how they want to do it.



In my case, Will I do it with my rank 50? hell yeah I will

If someone is advertising they want to do it around r30, and dont want 50s? well if i want to go, i can jump on my 33 gladiator and go with them(and i wont complain, they form the group, they want to do it without 50s, i can respect that)

but should I be forced to play it at only rank 30? no i should not

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Cheat codes, traditionally, are put into the game by the programmers themselves. They are features already included in the game, and therefore not illegal. But thank you for missing my point.

You say we're angry because the R30 dungeon isn't endgame content. I think you're arguing because level caps would mean you wouldn't be able to show off your string of R50 classes by bulldozing a dungeon with your e-peen.

You want to show off by running through a dungeon at r30. Vedis wants to show off by running it at r50. Wow. I don't see much of a difference here.

[TheVedis]

You want to show off by running through a dungeon at r30. Vedis wants to show off by running it at r50. Wow. I don't see much of a difference here.

i dont want to show off anything, im still weariong mostly canvas and velveteen rags on all my classes at 50 lol