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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamoto View Post
    For that matter, why did we have to level to 50 in the first place? Why not just give us all abilities at lv1 and base progression on gear.
    /shakeshead

    Because gear is the only thing that matters I suppose.
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    Player Fayto's Avatar
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    Faye Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamoto View Post

    For that matter, why did we have to level to 50 in the first place? Why not just give us all abilities at lv1 and base progression on gear.
    Because leveling is there to teach you how to play. Basically a giant tutorial that eases you into your role.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazamoto View Post
    Side note, why would they ever need to update the level cap, if the gear keeps climbing like this?
    For that matter, why did we have to level to 50 in the first place? Why not just give us all abilities at lv1 and base progression on gear.
    Because character levels and item levels are a simplistic and visible aspect of your character's power, and it's long been an established norm in RPG to use these numbers to make players feel stronger.

    What you're asking there is perfectly valid questions, and the answer would be that levels is a base design aspect of this game, that's the only reason we have it.
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    Kazamoto Futatabi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayto View Post
    Because leveling is there to teach you how to play. Basically a giant tutorial that eases you into your role.
    See FATE's and Low-level duty roulette. 20-50, only doing sastasha teaches much about tanking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Because character levels and item levels are a simplistic and visible aspect of your character's power, and it's long been an established norm in RPG to use these numbers to make players feel stronger.

    What you're asking there is perfectly valid questions, and the answer would be that levels is a base design aspect of this game, that's the only reason we have it.
    But like many base design aspects, it feels like it was only included to hit a check box on the list of things an mmo should have, like crafting. It's included, but you don't really need it.
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    Ketsu Wotaberu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squa View Post
    Assuming best case, back when the game came out in August, when the original people were attempting coil, they were at best in full darklight gear (i70), and most likely a mix of lvl 55-60 dungeon greens, and darklight (lets say 65 average).

    These people, attempting coil 1-4, were 28% short of ilvl (meaning, coil has 90 gear) 90/70 = 128%. So the difference for them entering T1 coil (70), and the max was that. Now, with the new coil, in order for it to have 'equal' progression difficulty, it will need to have lvl 115 gear drop (assuming the 28% jump from 90->115).

    Discuss.
    Nothing to discuss. You were originally intended to be attempting this dungeon with some i80 pieces as well. Time and money constraints changed that.
    But i115 wouldn't be awful, it'd leave a middle ground for CT2.
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    Uriah Nool
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    Why crank it up to 11? Why don't you just make 10 louder?
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    "There's a time when a man needs to fight, and a time when he needs to accept that his destiny is lost, that the ship has sailed, and that only a fool would continue. The truth is, I've always been a fool."

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