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    Player
    Worm's Avatar
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    Gulvak Garamonde
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    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I mean I don't necessarily agree that recognition needs to be a huge part of these games, especially considering the general difficulty of FFXIV content. However the idea that no one can ever take pride in video game accomplishments is just too much. Highscore boards have existed for a long time, and that's because recognition is nice, so if you're going to argue against someone on this recognition angle please don't resort to tell them that what they did is completely worthless or they accomplished nothing. It's actually pretty interesting when people can achieve a really high school in Mrs. Pacman and generally they're making no different argument ... well they are kind of since Mrs. Pacman scores reset when you shut it off but they want the whole game modified in various ways as an honor to their accomplishment.
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    Mewchat Bogz
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    40-50 hrs a week ? Where do you find that much time ? Or is FFXIV a full time job ?
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    All I do currently is...

    - One low level roulette to level an alt = 30-45 minutes.
    - One High level roulette to get the myth bonus = 30-45 minutes.
    - One Main Scenario roulette to get Phil tomes to gear alts in DL = 30-45 minutes.
    - One CT run to try to get that allusive piece of gear = 45-1 hour.
    - Several tries at extremes = 30 minutes.

    Now, I don't do all of this every day, but this can be a typical day for me playing this game very casually (I don't even run coil). That's any where from 3 to 4+ hours of content every day and again, that doesn't include special events, coil, dailies, helping FC members, etc.

    In other words, this game offers plenty to do! If you've played since 1.0 and have everything at 50 already with awesome gear, of course there isn't much to do now. But, for most people that started 2.0 or later, there should be plenty to keep them logging in daily.

    And personally... I can't wait until Coil is in the DF.
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I second Versiroth's motion on the party finder/no lockouts on Coil. I also second the nerf to Twintania, because throwing random stuff without warning or proper context at people isn't a boss fight. I have a somewhat unrealistic wish to see the extreme Titan primal battle preserved for future generations as an optional "legacy" fight, just because its an example of a really well designed, difficult boss encounter, but that probably won't happen without all three primals being involved. Not that I think extreme garuda and ifrit don't have their merits, but titan takes the crown when it comes to those three fights.
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    Last edited by Fendred; 01-29-2014 at 01:07 AM.

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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Leviathan
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    40-50 hours per week??

    Seriously?

    Considering the casual nature of this game... I am not sure why someone with that kind of play time would choose this game over a hard core grind game.... that is a LOT of time to be playing. That is like a full-time job.... I don't think that play style is typical and should be used as a model for any kind of development, honestly.
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    Tazo Yoshi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    There are people out there that are 'gamers' and play 50+ hrs a week...shocking I know

    The point Xatsh is making is very valid. SE released a game where you can get 1-50 in less than a week, crafting jobs in 1-2 days. If their design allows you to lvl so fast and reach endgame then they better have the content at the end of that road to keep these players interested.
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    Masamune Branford
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Solution: Give the ability to play all content under its original conditions and reward an achievement for doing so.

    Therefore -5 years from now - If i'm bored, I could gather my friends and enter the original turns 1-5 of BCB and be given the option to remove all echo buffs and be item level capped at ilevel 91.

    Such an easy solution to implement that would literally please everybody.
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    Masamune Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    Solution: Give the ability to play all content under its original conditions and reward an achievement for doing so.

    Therefore -5 years from now - If i'm bored, I could gather my friends and enter the original turns 1-5 of BCB and be given the option to remove all echo buffs and be item level capped at ilevel 91.

    Such an easy solution to implement that would literally please everybody.
    So ummm, nobody liked my idea? Got zero comments and I feel that it truly would please everyone. It basically would allow you to have a time capsule to replay all the historic battles throughout the life of the MMO.
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    Masamune Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazo View Post
    There are people out there that are 'gamers' and play 50+ hrs a week...shocking I know

    The point Xatsh is making is very valid. SE released a game where you can get 1-50 in less than a week, crafting jobs in 1-2 days. If their design allows you to lvl so fast and reach endgame then they better have the content at the end of that road to keep these players interested.
    Good points. However, I don't feel that it is in SE's best interest to rush out content to cater to the 5 or less% minority who plays an MMO more hours per week than the average work week.
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    Tazo Yoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    Good points. However, I don't feel that it is in SE's best interest to rush out content to cater to the 5 or less% minority who plays an MMO more hours per week than the average work week.
    The sad thing is that they didn't rush 2.1(delayed actually) and it's nothing but recycled content and shit that should have been there on release.
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