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    Player
    Beetle's Avatar
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    Beetle Juice
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Making Turn1~5 weaker isnt need. Already get nerfed by having stronger equipment in the game and content will be nerfed as soon as level cap is risen.

    Sure theres small adjustments they can make Turn5 easier such as making Conflag attackble as soon as it targets someone, lower the hp of everything, longer conflag timers, less knock back damage from divebomb,less dmg from arena barrier,slower moving dreadknights, snake adds die faster.

    These nerfs I expect to happen to turn 5.

    Turn 1...? 5 stacks being cap for the boss snake,Samething with turn2 ADS.
    Turn 2...? Longer swap timers for rod./ADS mobs dont have paralize or do as much damage with that attack.
    Turn 3... Golems dont aoe if your not in attack range.
    Turn 4...? Less mobs drop at once/more in a order,less Spiders,less HP on mobs.

    Probably see something with ADS nerf so players can take jobs without a brd or plds.
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    Andybell256's Avatar
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    Amarant Coral
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    you do understand that 6-9 is meant to be the new coil anyone who has been doing 1-5 will not care about doing 1-5 ever again except to gear alts maybe, the people that need the easy mode 1-5 will more than likely not be able to do 6-9, i really struggle to see how you think that 1-5 is difficult in the first place the game really isn't that hard just play with a group of friends and things will die to you eventually so the change in difficulty is warranted it has story linked to it why should people not be able to experience it ? and for those of you who are "against scrubs in full i90" there will be better gear to acquire also anyone can just farm myth for full i90 so it really doesn't matter
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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 72
    I don't understand. They are going to let more people complete T1-5, and those of you are are elite will get T6-9 and Leviathon X. That's your new goal.

    They did lateral progression in 2.1 . . . CT (i80 left side gear), EX Modes (only gave i90 accessories and an i90 weap) Mog King (i80 weap). You don't want more, harder stuff? What do you care if 1-5 is easy-mode now, if it was already easy mode for you in the first place? Is this a conversation you are picturing:

    Scene opens on you in Limsa Lominsa:
    You >> "Wow, look at all this i90 dropped gear I have! And I earned it the hard way, this sure makes me feel good! Another pleasant day in Eorzea with my friends!"

    Other Player >> "Hey! You probably got that the easy way! You suck dude! Hahahaha everything you do is meaningless!"

    You >> "No!!!! You guuuys! I did this before 2.2! I got all this stuff before everything was made easy and I'm super good!"

    Other Player, with venom in their voice >> "I don't believe you!! You're a liar, you newb! Heh heh heh!!!

    Other Player Shouts >> "This guy's a phony!!! A big, fat phony!!!!!"

    You are removed from your Free Company
    You are removed from your Link Shells
    You have lost all your friends
    Your life has lost all meaning

    SCENE.

    Sorry I was a little mean to be comical and to iterate my point, but come on, guys. They are giving you more end game stuff 7 months after the game came out. I realize there isn't a TON to do right now, but if you want a lateral progression game, go play.... uhhh... Settlers of Katan?
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    Synapse's Avatar
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    Ul'dah - Sargatanas
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    Synaptic Striker
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Why don't they just give free item when these people log in. It will be much fun.
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

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    astrobearthe2nd's Avatar
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    Iwannabe Amoogle
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 26
    why is this thread still open? it is totally off topic and is driving into the usual hardcore/causal troll territory?
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    BoomerOU's Avatar
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    Vaera Ty'rin
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    Mateus
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    Lancer Lv 62
    Old content gets depreciated for casual players and new content is added to provide difficult content for progression players.

    Welcome to MMOs. Drinks are in the back.
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    Ricky's Avatar
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    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    I kind of agree with all the people saying that it isn't a big deal that old stuff gets nerfed and new stuff is the hardest, I have beat Twintania and I am happy to be able to play with more friends in turns 1-5 on a regular basis, rather than just my static. The only thing is there is a precedent set from the past (1.0) of rewarding people for beating the super hard content with exclusive rewards (White Ravens) and that no longer seems to be the case. Even though my White Ravens are useless I still like them because they are a memento of past deeds, so I'd hope they have something similar in mind for those who beat content pre-nerf.

    Of course beating it is its own reward but honestly, we could stop farming Twintania now for weapons and just do it post patch when it isn't locked and save ourselves a lot of frustrating at the loot system.
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    Kazamoto Futatabi
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 51
    Got an Idea.


    Let SE nerf any content they wish, while still having a version at normal difficulty.

    And only have the hard version drop gear.

    For those people all up in arms about wanting 'access' to the content because 'story' they shouldn't mind they don't also get the gear right?
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    Xerius's Avatar
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    Xerius Falconbridge
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I like how there's this idea that sideways progression is what kept FFXI alive for so long. What kept FFXI alive for so long was the fact that there was vertical progression but the increases were in extremely small steps and there was a HUGE time-sink between those steps. Then abyssea came out and got rid of all that and added way quicker vertical progression and the majority of players loved it. Now with Seekers of Adoulin they're trying to bring back some of that old, hardcore players onry, mentality and they lost a LOT of players because of it and had to turn back around and make things easier.
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    XNihili's Avatar
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    Mewchat Bogz
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 55
    Why do people care about how other people are playing ?
    Why would you care that older contents are getting easier as long as newer contents are hard enough for you to enjoy ?
    Do you keep doing them ?

    EDIT : if you are a newer player looking for a challenge, I can understand but it seems to me that the complainers have already beaten those dungeons.
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    Last edited by XNihili; 01-28-2014 at 01:47 AM.

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