Thread: Patch 2.2, Accessibility, Difficulty Levels, and Throwing Away Content

Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford

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no amount of gear can make you survive a divebomb that will knock you into the wall, an unstacked fireball, a twister, or a unmitigated neurolink bomb.

your gear may make you stronger, but in the end you still have to gain experience first.

I don't see a problem with special rewards for completing certain content. Be it a mount or special title. Hardcore players will get it first, casuals will want it but may not be able to get it right away. New content comes out, casuals get more powerful gear and maybe now the content gets a nerf. Casual rejoices! He got that special mount, then sees the hardcore dude riding around some new special mount. The cycle repeats.

The casual got his reward, hardcore still has the latest and greatest to brag about.

There is not enough "new" content to warrant catching-up the casuals. Typically MMOs will help the casuals catch-up when an expansion is released (because an expansion brings a plethora of content). Removing the lockout to coil (and implementing echo) will quickly give most everyone I-level 90 gear (turns 1 and 2 are quick and easy and offer each job 6 pieces of i-level 90 gear). Why would SE want to make sure everyone has I-level 90 gear? If everyone has I-level 90 gear, that means that everyone is ready to participate in turns 6-9 which will be the hardest content available for an entire 6 months. Patch 2.3 will be outdated before it is even released. If everyone has I-level 90 gear then the only viable content will be turns 6-9, extreme leviathan and "possibly" extreme moogle and the three new dungeons (all prior content will be made completely irrelevant a mere 6.5 months into the game).

If you just hit level 50 today you are not far behind. You don't need a catch-up. If you just hit 50 today - would you honestly be worried about making it to turn 9 of coil in 7 and a half months? Because that's how much time you would likely have before new turns are added. You bring everyone to turns 6-9 and you are going to see people drop like flies. There is simply not enough content.

Originally Posted by jars

why don't you go play.... ffxi. it's still going you know.

why people who look for "horizontal progression" go play FFXI? when it became "an other vertical progression MMO"

Originally Posted by Taruranto

But MMO fanbase isa bunch of crybaby. I'm sorry, but it's true. You think not getting the story for the Exes or the Coil is bad? People in FFXI went years without Sea or Sky access, and what they did? They didn't cry, they admired those who made it there and strove for it. And doing CoP story was far harder and resource-wasteful than getting teleported in 5 second in a instance from all over the world every time you can.
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FTFY
It's not only FFXIV player.
put "2010+" players on pre WotG FFXI they will cry louder than all the cry about FFXIV v2 since launch

Originally Posted by Taruranto

Yoshida doesn't understand what makes a MMORPG endgame (or a MMORPG in general) last. Exclusive content is good, hard content is good, it gives people something to work toward, a feeling that there is always a world and content behind everything.

Actually I believe he does know, since he has made one for adults with a life. You on the other side seem to still believe MMOs should be for kids who ignore school and should require a ton of time and work.

Exclusive and hard content is a waste. Only thing you need is fun content.

Originally Posted by coffeepotz

Just get out of here.

Did I hit a nerve?

Originally Posted by Scarletyoshi

I don't understand the value in doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Are there really people who want to do the endgame content out now 4 years from now? These are people that exist? Why wouldn't they want to do what's new? I just don't understand why people are so attached to content they've done already hundreds of times, as we are constantly reminded.

To each his own I guess.

It just feels like "I walked up hill in the snow both ways so new players should have to as well" type of mentality. I don't really understand the type of player who wants their Allagan Weapon from an unnerfed twin to be relevant 2 years in the future... what kind of value does that put on all the gear released in two years if it's worse than something you already have?