Thread: Patch 2.2, Accessibility, Difficulty Levels, and Throwing Away Content

Originally Posted by YarozeX

So instead of bronze make the Echo gear silver (in looks)?

I can see this causing kick abuse. He is wearing silver gear, he cannot join OUR run.

Also, then people who already have the gear would be upset that they like the new color scheme better and should be able to get it without having to farm it again.

It's Abyssea all over again.

i don't see why add a bonus reward for having finish a content before the next one... the reward is to be able to begin before the other. it's more a trouble of ego than anything.

about the one talking of the casual stance for the game i will answer this, who do you think is the more important as player base in number? the casual, you can not like this, but that a fact, you have more player called "casual" than hardcore. then focus on a small playerbase for a company that try to get money for a game is indeed not the smartest move.

that said, i'm against any sort of reward for the... old player over the new player in general, creating a schisme between old and new player have always make a mess... look at all the trouble between legacy and new player we had while the beta and still have now.

finally, they seems able to give us enough content for use the vertical progression instead to give us horizontal one it's a good thing! if a player begin to play when the 2.2 will be out, he will have already a pretty decent quantity of content to do.

I don't think players should be getting "special rewards" or "special markers" for clearing content when they cleared it. Nor should players who use the Echo buff be somehow marked differently for clearing that content.
That will only serve to segregate the already fragile community. The last thing we need is more epeen in this community.

As far as horizontal progression is concerned, I'm not against it so as long as it is implemented in a way that doesn't involve XI's stupidity and side grades.

On a side note, the name blame with the casuals is getting pretty old. It feels like I can't read a single thread on these forums without some "le uber" player getting their panties in a bunch over casuals. Sounds to me like the problem does not lie with the casuals but with the QQing le uber hardcore 1337z player of awesome

Originally Posted by Anapingofness

I don't think players should be getting "special rewards" or "special markers" for clearing content when they cleared it.

On a side note, the name blame with the casuals is getting pretty old. It feels like I can't read a single thread on these forums without some "le uber" player getting their panties in a bunch over casuals. Sounds to me like the problem does not lie with the casuals but with the QQing le uber hardcore 1337z player of awesome

It's usually the same people who think killing crabs in Valkurm Dunes ala FFXI for hours on end was difficult and required skills rather then questing. But I agree with you fully. Don't want the echo buff? Remove it and press on, no one else cares if you are puffing your chest and clearing story/raid content without a handicap. It was the same in WoW. People whined about a buff in the frozen throne for about a week, then realized "hmm, no one cares about my gloating".

Has anyone tested how much the echo buff helps? Because it'd have to be a BIG enhancement for DF to be able to clear Coil.

for the challenge, they really need to add an ilevel sync... some dungeon are a pain when you are too much equiped, like pharos sirus. and some become...ridiculous because overpowered by the difference of equipement. they had added level synce for low level dungeon. as the game evolve and add more rank in ilevel they need to add the ilevel sync. is not different than getting more level than the dungeon and coming crushing it!

Well, they nerfed the crap out of the White Ravens, which pissed off some folks I know a great deal.

That really wasn't cool btw YP.

There is a thing called the Date you got the achievement on.... that's kind of reward enough.

Either way, it would be nice if the game is not a never-ending gear treadmill to get another 10 item levels every patch

As long as they drop giving us the echo buff once players hit whats just a tier or two below the most "Recent" endgame I couldn't complain. Help the scrubs get by Titan hard and get them some help gearing up for coil then let them enter 1-5 with no echo buffs.

I'm all for letting players clear content but they need to keep the divide between skilled players and people who can't be bothered somewhere other than the bleeding edge.