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  1. #11
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    This is amazing. Somehow you just can't please everyone. Fix a system in exactly the way players have been asking for and someone will come up with a way it hurts them. Quick synthesis naked to save on repair costs?? You say you're not complaining, but your post consists of: how it is now, what they're changing, and how you'll lose out afterwards. Even a deadline to take advantage of the good times while they last! :rollseyes:
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  2. #12
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    Kincard Naushadi
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    As a level 50 Culinarian, I should not be failing an synths in the 1-30~40 level range, especially with full HQ gear (don't have materia melds yet). If I spent the time to do it manually and would never fail, I should never fail at quick synth either.
    Truthfully it's nearly impossible to fail any synth, be it -30 levels of +10 levels if all you were trying to do is NQ synth it. Even with mediocre just-there gear it's not exactly hard to 100% NQ a 2 star synth just by spamming careful synthesis and MAYBE a single repair if your gear is really really behind. Quick Synth's inbuilt failure would make sense if they stuck with the XI system of crafting where everything has a guaranteed 5% failure no matter what, but they didn't, so yeah.

    People only fail because of failed risk analysis, if they want to quick synth a crapload of NQ items just let them do it, they're already taking a loss by virtue of the fact that it's a damn NQ.
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  3. #13
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    Katchii Soilsiu
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    People only fail because of failed risk analysis, if they want to quick synth a crapload of NQ items just let them do it, they're already taking a loss by virtue of the fact that it's a damn NQ.
    NQ means less profit per item, but many people simply won't spend the extra on the HQ food, which means NQ sell faster.

    NQ isn't always bad.
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  4. #14
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    Kincard Naushadi
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    I don't dabble much in cooking but I imagine the market for that is a bit healthier since it's a consumable, but NQing just about any sort of equipment is a pretty big loss, at least enough so that it's not worth the faster transit time. Sometimes the market is screwed enough that HQs are actually selling for less than NQs and you either have to HQ or get screwed.

    Nevertheless my point was more in line with how having any breaks with quicksynth makes no sense because it's impossible for anybody with a pulse to fail an intended NQ synth.
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  5. #15
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    Katchii Soilsiu
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    Nevertheless my point was more in line with how having any breaks with quicksynth makes no sense because it's impossible for anybody with a pulse to fail an intended NQ synth.
    True, I was remembering simply trying to finish synths as I was leveling when I didn't have the cross class skills, but even then it was nearly impossible to fail a synth that was intended to be NQ.
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  6. #16
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    Kincard Naushadi
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    It is actually impossible unless you're just totally spacing out. Even for a 40 durability 2-star craft if you have the typical 347 craftsmanship requirement you can just use careful synthesis I 4 times and there's 0 chance of failure. Substitute that with steady hand + basic synthesis if you want to be really gimp.
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  7. #17
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    Pep Per
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    This is amazing. Somehow you just can't please everyone. Fix a system in exactly the way players have been asking for and someone will come up with a way it hurts them. Quick synthesis naked to save on repair costs?? You say you're not complaining, but your post consists of: how it is now, what they're changing, and how you'll lose out afterwards. Even a deadline to take advantage of the good times while they last! :rollseyes:
    silly wabbit.. im sure i can craft together an eye patch to hide that eye problem of yours.
    again, not a complaint thread just a heads up.
    half the time i dont use the nekkid method because i SB while mass producing. QS, again is great for achievements and easy leveling if you, like i put in OP, have rested exp & food & GC scroll.
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  8. #18
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    Balmung
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    I musta had some bad RNG luck.

    When I quick synth cobalt ingots with i48 mh, i55 body pieces and oh gear, my fail rate is about 3%, give or take 2%.

    When I was using i33-i37 gear just to bond it, I failed 10%-12% over the next 297 ingots. So I'm kind of surprised they said it wasn't in there yet.
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  9. #19
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    Tetsaru Arigashi
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    I just wish they'd adjust Quick Synth to where it doesn't take 10 minutes to go through a stack of materials. It takes me an hour or longer just to make a stack of La Noscean Toast for my PLD due to the other random sub-components needed for it. Like, I'm LITERALLY alt+tabbed out of the game reading through the forums and other websites waiting for this stuff to finish, queue up another stack of items, then alt+tab back. It's ridiculous.

    It should just do one animation, and say:

    - You successfully made X amount out of 99 items.
    - You HQ'd Y amount out of 99 items.
    - You failed Z amount out of 99 items.

    Ever since ARR came out, there's been nothing "quick" about Quick Synth. It's literally spamming 1.0's Hasty Hand over and over.
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    Last edited by Tetsaru; 02-11-2014 at 03:09 PM.

  10. #20
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    If they let you make it too fast though there would be imbalance in the game and markets flooded. There has to be some balance.
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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