A Better Lockout Removal Compromise

[Gesser]

DISCLAIMER: I don't wanna' hear "get over it" or "they have the gear to show for it" or "they get to do Turns 6-9" or "this' how MMO's work, find a new genre", please stop with the fallacious arguments/flaming/necro'ing; do you hear me complaining in this thread? Do you truly not see how having the gear alone doesn't count (I speak to this)? Do you really not understand that everyone will get to do Turns 6-9 in time? And do you not get that MMO's don't 'have' to work like that? C'mon, let's have a real civil conversation. Additionally, I'm asking for replies with further suggestions, not your upheaval.


Listen, lockout removal will happen. I personally am okay with it, I'm all for letting all players experience all of the content in time & I think you should be too.

The real frustration for many lies in the homogenization.

Players who earned the gear/beat all five prior to the lockout removal/encounter nerf, I think they should have something to show for it.

It's only fair they have something visual to honor their achievement.

Many of these people want something to 'show' for their accomplishment, the gear doesn't count as soon after a reset everyone possesses it.


I have a few ideas of my own & I would gladly receive all of your suggestions as well:

1a. A special dazzle or glow to the tier set pieces (pre lockout-removal)
1b. A different colour-palette to the " "

2. Unlock a unique face-paint or tattoo specific to the downed content

3. Unlock a unique insignia specific to the downed content which can be affixed to armor


I strongly believe the reward shouldn't be something that would deject the rest of the player-base or incite jealously (e.g. a unique mount or barding)... this bonus should merely serve as a time-limited means of honoring the legacy of players who defeated the top-tier content while it was still 'top-tier'.

Any other suggestions?

[ElHeggunte]

The only "reward" anyone who cleared it prior to the nerf needs is the knowledge that they cleared it when it was hard.

[SpookyGhost]

The reward of clearing the content before its nerfed is being able to show off the armor/rewards you got from it while the content is still "difficult". That's it, that's all you get. Maybe you'll get an achievement or something but idk why you want to show off your e-peen like anyone cares that you cleared Twintania post-Twister nerf.

[Thorauku]

Wow! So much for those Elites LOL! Why give them a special treatment in the first place?

[Dotsusama]

How about an achievement?

"I cleared [X] dungeon before patch [Y] and all I got was this lousy Achievement."

But it would only be visible from the Lodestone, and only visible to other players with the same Achievement.

[Gesser]

The only "reward" anyone who cleared it prior to the nerf needs is the knowledge that they cleared it when it was hard.

Eh I think it'd be a nice gesture to honor these players, I've been in their shoes before & it just feels crappy to be homogenized when you spent 100+ hours across months on content the newcomers could now accomplish over maybe 15 hours in less than a week (hyperbole).

I don't think these players 'deserve' it per se, but I think it's an honor that should be seriously considered.

[Edenholt]

Wow! So much for those Elites LOL! Why give them a special treatment in the first place?

You don't need to be elite to clean easy content, like coil. What you need is some focus and a static groups. But let's be honest, the later isn't a must anymore it's been quite a while.

But if you take away the challenge and the feeling of accomplishment/reward from MMORPG what are you left with? Vanity only? yeah, GW2 did it and look the mess it is. So, please, you're starting to sound like a person who ever wanted to to do that kind of content but never managed to and developed a grudge against anybody who did. =/

[Gesser]

The reward of clearing the content before its nerfed is being able to show off the armor/rewards you got from it while the content is still "difficult". That\\'s it, that\\'s all you get. Maybe you\\'ll get an achievement or something but idk why you want to show off your e-peen like anyone cares that you cleared Twintania post-Twister nerf.

Well, I\\'m exempt from these "rewards" I speak of as I haven\\'t cleared even turn 1 yet.

Let me be very clear, I\\'m requesting this on behalf of those players who have. Why? One, I can imagine how shitty it must feel to have your legacy turn to dust in a flash (you should think about that). And two, if I were in that position, I would surely feel bummed the hell out (as I\\'m fairly certain nigh-anyone would).

[Gesser]

Here\\'s the thing: working countless hours to possess those gear-pieces will mean shit when everybody has them like nothing.

Part of the fun & satisfaction of earning such things is showing them off or looking set apart (badass)... when all that gets taken away, it sucks hard.

For instance, we grind away endlessly to earn that shiny gold Magitek armor or Rank 10 Barding... now all of a sudden it only takes 25 commendations & rank 2 to earn them, with zero consolation. That burns deep.

[Ri_ri]

I also want to feel special for doing AK when it was hard.