Question About Raising Party Members in a Fight

[Ashira]

It depends on your group. Sometimes a healer will get there before you, but nobody will scold you for helping a healer out. Cast Swiftcast and make yourself this macro:

/micon "Ressurection"
/ac "Ressurection" <t>
/p Raising <t> <se.7>

Something along those lines. It's handy to let everyone know you've cast raise on them already.

[Shmunkster]

Thank you for rezing!

You are right, with regards to me, on your thoughts. I watch the party the bars and check if someone else is raising before I start mine. A notification would be helpful, but I do check.
Also, regards timing. I will raise the DPS. I just won't do it until I have everyone else in good health, and there are no massive attacks about to happen. So sometimes they can be lying there for a few mins before I get to it....if u happen to have the time for it, please feel free!

[RavenL]

Please just stop dying. Most of the attacks in the game are avoidable. It puts a major strain on the healers mp to raise someone. This is most notable when I solo heal Garuda Extreme. If a DPS dies early on or later on in the fight it's hard to raise them. I'll TRY to raise if I can but losing 800 mp when I only have 2500 left and need to save aetherflow stacks for lustrates is a pain.

[givemeraptors]

Is there more context to this? What fights? Some fights are very unforgiving to raised people; they're more than likely going to go down again very shortly in some fights. The quickcast issue's already been mentioned, and some fights are just better off wiped and redone if someone goes down too early.

I only just finished maxing my first class so I"m not familiar with every fight yet. For some dungeons I have a much better idea of when it would be a good time to raise. During those times when I feel it would not be taxing on me to raise someone I was wondering how to do so without overlapping with the healer.

Thank you for rezing!

You are right, with regards to me, on your thoughts. I watch the party the bars and check if someone else is raising before I start mine. A notification would be helpful, but I do check.
Also, regards timing. I will raise the DPS. I just won't do it until I have everyone else in good health, and there are no massive attacks about to happen. So sometimes they can be lying there for a few mins before I get to it....if u happen to have the time for it, please feel free!

You're welcome! Thanks for mentioning timing, I was curious about that as well. Most of the time the healer knows the fight better than I do so I don't take offense if I'm lying there for a while.

Thanks everyone for the helpful advice everyone! Except the one guy who suggested not dying, cause I mean, obviously.

[Ashira]

Please just stop dying. Most of the attacks in the game are avoidable. It puts a major strain on the healers mp to raise someone. This is most notable when I solo heal Garuda Extreme. If a DPS dies early on or later on in the fight it's hard to raise them. I'll TRY to raise if I can but losing 800 mp when I only have 2500 left and need to save aetherflow stacks for lustrates is a pain.

You just need to manage your Aetherflow better. MP should never be an issue with Scholar. Telling people to stop dying is like saying 'stop losing, please win instead'. People don't set out to die unless they're trolling. It just happens.

[Bigpurpleharness]

I basically want to know how least to infringe upon the healer's job while also being helpful in sharing a burden that is easily taken care of by a SMN.

If you tell the healers at the start of the fight you'll handle raises, I guarantee you they'll love it, WHMs especially, they don't have Aetherflow to spam.

[Seryl199]

It depends largely on the fight. During titan hard mode, most average dps will simply die to tumults and weakness. Some endgame fights it's hard to spare one GCD on anything but a heal. But otherwise, I'm usually the first to drop a res. Macros go a long way towards reducing wasteful casts, especially those that use sound effects.

[Sirantha]

I res in the order I heal, healer > tank > DPS (or in some cases, tank > healer > DPS). If I'm running low on MP due to multiple Raise casts, if you keep dying repeatedly and are DPS and are therefore likely to die yet again, or if it's a particularly healing intense fight and I know we can handle the DPS without you, I'll generally avoid ressing as long as I can, purely because there are other higher priority tasks to take care of first. When I have time and Swiftcast is up, I'll pick you up.

I really love when a SMN can step in and pick up a res. It saves me time and MP, and generally a good healer will notice and love you for it! Communication can really help, but usually a healer will notice and definitely won't mind the extra help.

I hate seeing a healer picking someone up using Raise without Swiftcast while the other healer is struggling to keep the tank alive. If a healer is doing end-game content and hasn't unlocked Swiftcast that's a problem.

[warren-ragnarok]

in some fights, raising people can be a liability like some have already stated, like the possibility that you can get caught up in an attack and die, or might miss a critical heal on the tank....or worst yet, watch the dps die again right after

fights like titan hm, if a person dies with weakness during phase 4 or after, i would never raise them again.....they are just an mp sink and going to die again (tumults during phase 5 can hurt) and titan ex

[PArcher]

Our "Rez Priority" is SMN, SCH, WHM; its a mana issue. SMN usually have more to spare, then SCH, and WHM last.

Now...when to rez is something else entirely. If a heal has died, rez them ASAP (assuming its safe, but Swiftcast -> Rez means less danger), Tank ASAP (unless you've already decided tank dead = wipe), a good DPS also should be rezed fast, and "bad" DPS when you get a spare moment.

But really, when to Rez really comes down to knowing the fight and when its "ideal" to rez, and who has died.