How about a compromise?

[Kyro]

Or could just put a special icon(along those lines) on the gear info if obtained through with it dumbed down. If they don't want the special icon on gear to show they obtained it with difficulty dumbed down, then they can go through it without it being dumbed down.

But yeah I doubt anything will be done to show who obtained gear through it normally or dumbed down. >.>

[MaethusXion]

Best idea would be achievement. Anyone that's got a record of beating T1-5 pre-2.2 gets the achievement. Make a new tab for it and call it something like Veteran or Dominator or something. Give the ones that beat it pre-2.2 a little something that doesn't do anything but make their e-peen bigger. No vanity items, no special mounts.

[Ed_N_Ants]

It's nearly February and the patch is in March...3 months?

You forgot about the week lock outs so actually about 8 attempts tops... Well at least on the HM... I think they need to stop nerfing shit... I like the difficulty of coil and its not going to be as enjoyable after the patch...

[ZohnoReecho]

Personally, I couldn't care less if people get equip, achievement, icons etc.
I just want to beat the content the way it's designed, without being "pitied" by the devs because I didn't reach that stage fast enough to enjoy it.

Even if I get better equip and get an easier fight, it will be because I worked to get that equip and not because some who knows what unique special power that in the end everyone has throws a +20% stats to me.

My wife was just watching the live letter (she is japanese) and what she said to me is Yoshii said that there will ba a buff that makes coil eaiser with each passing week. Players are also able to turn the buff off so coil 1-5 wont be made easier but players will gain a power that makes it easier but is optional.

If they keep it that way, it would be good.

[Ere]

My wife was just watching the live letter (she is japanese) and what she said to me is Yoshii said that there will ba a buff that makes coil eaiser with each passing week. Players are also able to turn the buff off so coil 1-5 wont be made easier but players will gain a power that makes it easier but is optional.

[Marael]

Not to sound like a dick or anything, but you guys do realize that SE stated this would happen before the game was even released, right? It's been a well known and documented fact for many months that as new content is released older content will be made easier. I mean, seriously, what did you think was going to happen? Did you, for some reason, think that Coil would be excluded from that? Or did you just think it was never actually going to happen, despite being told by official reps repeatedly that it would?

[TeganLaron]

Not to sound like a dick or anything, but you guys do realize that SE stated this would happen before the game was even released, right? It's been a well known and documented fact for many months that as new content is released older content will be made easier. I mean, seriously, what did you think was going to happen? Did you, for some reason, think that Coil would be excluded from that? Or did you just think it was never actually going to happen, despite being told by official reps repeatedly that it would?

I can't speak for everyone else, but personally I'm just shocked at the speed of it happening. Even with new Coil Turns coming, I think it's a bit premature to be nerfing the hardest content in the game already.

[SarcasmMisser]

You forgot about the week lock outs so actually about 8 attempts tops... Well at least on the HM... I think they need to stop nerfing shit... I like the difficulty of coil and its not going to be as enjoyable after the patch...

Uh you can spam twin as much as you want to get a single clear in until March. Honestly if you haven't cleared it by then then you need the nerf and the next challenge of hopefully equal or more difficulty will be in 6-9. There will still be content of that difficulty.

I mean it's reasonable to give a 6 month timeframe to down the hardest content before you move on to the next challenge, you have to call it at some point. Coil has and always will be hardcore progression content so you gotta keep up.

[TeganLaron]

Uh you can spam twin as much as you want to get a single clear in until March. Honestly if you haven't cleared it by then then you need the nerf and the next challenge of hopefully equal or more difficulty will be in 6-9. There will still be content of that difficulty.

I mean it's reasonable to give a 6 month timeframe to down the hardest content before you move on to the next challenge, you have to call it at some point. Coil has and always will be hardcore progression content so you gotta keep up.

Not everyone lives on the game 24/7 though. I'm not saying you do, or even knocking those who do, but I'm just saying everyone is different. It took me well over a month just to get my first level 50 because I just play the game slower overall. Why should I be denied the opportunity to take on Twintania the proper way just because I don't spend as long on the game as you do? Or more importantly, why does it matter to you what other people are doing on Twintania? You will be off doing T6-9 anyway.

[ZohnoReecho]

Uh you can spam twin as much as you want to get a single clear in until March. Honestly if you haven't cleared it by then then you need the nerf and the next challenge of hopefully equal or more difficulty will be in 6-9. There will still be content of that difficulty.

I mean it's reasonable to give a 6 month timeframe to down the hardest content before you move on to the next challenge, you have to call it at some point. Coil has and always will be hardcore progression content so you gotta keep up.

I don't get why someone else gotta decide that timeframe in my place.
My static started a bit late with coil, doesn't do coil everyday, and with the time we had we finally reached turn 5. I don't see why I pay and someone else gotta decide how much I should play and if I need a nerf or not.