Thread: Patch 2.2: Let's Copy the Worst Practice of MMOs From the Last 10 Years...

Originally Posted by Suellen

I feel like the majority don't get the point of this thread. I haven't touched Coil and hearing the news that it will be nerfed bums me out.

Yoshi-P said, "Yes, you will need to clear turn 5 to enter [turn 6], however with the patch release, the gear level will increase making it easier to clear [turn 5]." So it sounds like you can just not equip the new, higher gear levels of patch 2.2 and you'll be golden.

Of course he also said, "also we have a new system where players can clear easier so with that please defeat Twintania and try this new dungeon"... To me that still sounds optional, but SE rarely puts the details in writing.

(Translations of live conversations by Reinheart. Google doc link.)

People are crying about this because they derive pleasure from being on top of the pile and being able to piss on the unwashed masses who don't have an Allagan weapon.

Turns 1 through 5 of The Binding Coil of Bahamut will become, upon the release of patch 2.2, deprecated content. No longer current. No longer bleeding-edge. It is a soft progression reset, and the tryhards are none too happy about this because they are losing their "specialness."

Originally Posted by Greywizaqrd

It isn't about gear. It is about accomplishment. People worked hard to accomplish defeating the current content. Nerfing it makes that accomplishment worthless. It effectively removes the value of a massive amount of time and effort invested into a win. I do not subscribe to the "everyone is a winner" train of thought. You should not get a trophy for showing up. If you can't win at the current difficulty, too bad for you. Don't shit on my accomplishments to make yourself feel better about your own inadequacies.

Your logic is flawed. If someone can't win at the current difficulty, can't progress beyond what content we currently have available, what do you think they'll do?

Don't worry, I'll answer that since thought is clearly a foreign concept to you: THEY'LL STOP PLAYING. And Square-Enix will lose money.

I don't consider myself a "hardcore" gamer. I don't even log in every day, and my company is still wiping on Twintania while I see lots of people walking around with Allagan weapons. Now, I would like to get a Twintania kill before she gets nerfed, sure. That would be cool, because I'd like to finish the encounter at its originally-intended difficulty.

However, there are people in my company who are nowhere near killing Twintania. They will not be near killing Twintania when 2.2 drops. They might have just started playing the game. Or they may not be as skilled as other players in the company. Or perhaps they can't log in regularly enough to attend scheduled Coil runs. Or maybe they live somewhere with poor internet infrastructure. You can think they're useless, you can think they suck and you can even hate them all you want; they don't know you and likely don't care. But they pay their subscription fee and they deserve to get to experience the content, too.

You just get to do it first. Unless you intend to start paying the subscriptions of everyone who quits because they're locked behind four deprecated tiers of content and can't find anyone to help them clear it when we're on patch 2.6, then you really have no room at all to talk.

Additionally, I honestly believe that the people complaining about this issue have some serious psychological issues if you need fake accomplishments in a virtual world in order to make you feel good about yourself.

Originally Posted by Aegis

ITT: people who choose not to understand how horizontal progression works and lash out in defensiveness at those who do because vertical progression is all they've ever known.

Yoshida outright stated that he designed the gear in XIV this way on purpose with the express intent to avoid having to farm up ten sets of gear to clear one raid dungeon.

people are to scared, where is the nerf? old contents is always gona be easier no matter what..
But there will be plenty of people who wont even clear the coil, even if its easier.
Alot people still can't even kill titan today...

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

I'm invested in the hobby, but do you see me going around flipping the heck out because "oh my stars, the baddies will be able to beat Twintania after 2.2, I'm not special anymore, whatever shall I do?!"

So people aren't reacting how you would react? They must have psychological issues.