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    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Nocturnal84 did you even play FFXI, no they didn't, 50 cap raised to 60 then we had af1, which next they raised cap to 75 and we had dynamis gear af2, we had sky gear, chains of prom gear, toau gear, it didn't stay the same for years the list goes on when did you stop playing?

    time line 50 > 55 > 60 > 65 > 70 > 75 which were months and close together in 2002 - 2003 and onward.
    things changed it didn't take years. If you're saying something different sorry but I don't know what game you were playing. I couldn't continue at friends so I had to buy my own after he moved out of state which i started fresh on the ps2 NA and 2004.
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    Last edited by HeroSamson; 01-26-2014 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    Snip!
    Don't think Nocturnal meant it like that, more that gear did not become as obsolete like it does here. AF gear was still usable by some jobs in end game. Old HNM gear since before RoZ is the same. Eastern/Western Shadow NMs weapons was second only to relic/myth.
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    If you really want people to know about your 'achievements' downing 2.0 Twintania then simply tell everyone you meet. Don't expect much of a response though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    If you really want people to know about your 'achievements' downing 2.0 Twintania then simply tell everyone you meet. Don't expect much of a response though.
    Uh, no? If you didn't read the earlier post, then you too please do your research before making this remark. I believe your statement was one sided cause you only read the above post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosiahk View Post
    Uh, no? If you didn't read the earlier post, then you too please do your research before making this remark. I believe your statement was one sided cause you only read the above post.
    I was referring to OP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    I was referring to OP!
    I apologize my scrubness. >.< /sadface
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    Bisera Cecilina
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    To OP;

    Why do you even care?
    You went through this content, you've beaten it and you have those memories and nobody can take them from you or devalue them.
    So, why do you care if the less uber 1337 players get to experience that content?

    Also, why is introducing new content bad?
    Do you WANT them to pull the same BS that they pulled in XI?
    A couple of people mentioned it already, taking years to accomplish just about anything or wearing the same gear for YEARS isn't fun.

    You know, I played CoP before the "grand nerf" and I wasn't angry about it when SE made it easier. It was a GOOD thing. What you don't want is a sea of dead content.

    2.2 Will give the power players new things to blaze through while the rest of the population catches up.
    So what exactly is the problem?
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    Last edited by Anapingofness; 01-27-2014 at 09:01 AM.

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    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Well I know this, in FFXI everyone who played for years all the way up to SOA, when SE decided to weaken content so people could catch up this way nobody was left behind I didn't care even though it was the toughest fights, sweat and hardships we had to over come to get to the next place in the game, I understand making people happy and keeping them playing and interested in the game is more important than being stuck up and saying why do they get it easy when we didn't.

    Just take it as you were the ones who got to test out the true dungeon before it was made easier, its not like content will not come to replace this and these threads people make you look back and say man why did I even gripe.
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    Suellen Harkwyn
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    I feel like the majority don't get the point of this thread. I haven't touched Coil and hearing the news that it will be nerfed bums me out. I knew that they were planning nerfs on old content. But I feel like the nerfs are coming so quickly. I don't understand why they are having to do these nerfs so fast or why they are releasing new gear tiers so fast. With the amount of time I have to play, I feel like there is no way I will be able to keep up and I'm losing the motivation to keep trying.

    I don't see any value in playing an EZ mode of the game everyone else is getting to play. I don't see why people argue that's what they want. If the game is hard then that's a great opportunity to get better. And I'm not saying this as an elitist cause honestly I'm not that great of a player myself. But I like to try and to get better. If the only access to content I can ever see is nerfed content how am I ever going to get better? How am I ever going to progress *as a player*.

    I used to love this genre. I still do. But the irony is I found games like FFXI and Vanilla WoW FAR more casual friendly than mmos today. Casuals don't have a chance in hell to see any of the content in it's original form these days. And that fact I find really depressing.
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    Santori Zhonets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suellen View Post
    I feel like the majority don't get the point of this thread. I haven't touched Coil and hearing the news that it will be nerfed bums me out.
    Yoshi-P said, "Yes, you will need to clear turn 5 to enter [turn 6], however with the patch release, the gear level will increase making it easier to clear [turn 5]." So it sounds like you can just not equip the new, higher gear levels of patch 2.2 and you'll be golden.

    Of course he also said, "also we have a new system where players can clear easier so with that please defeat Twintania and try this new dungeon"... To me that still sounds optional, but SE rarely puts the details in writing.

    (Translations of live conversations by Reinheart. Google doc link.)
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    Last edited by ArkhamNative; 01-26-2014 at 08:28 PM.

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