Vanity System Requiring Crafters? What Kind of Joke is This?

[Starlord]

gear will be free anyways people have FC's. only the first few days will make money till theres billions of everything for sell. just like the lv50 DOH & DOL gear. doubt this will fix the economy.

alot of people have atleat one lvl50 craft now & on legacy servers alot have all lv50.

Not totally fix, but it's a start in the right direction. because with the mindset you described ( Gear will be free based on the FC), the economy will never will be truly fixed. Also, not all FC have multiple crafting classes leveled. Small FCs will most likely hit this wall. There are more Small FCs then there is big. Also, even in a big FC's there will be people that want to earn money so they still charge FC's even at a discounted rate.

Personally I think it's a step in the right direction in fixing the economy but it doesn't fix the overall problem.

Edit: What makes a stable economy?

If I can describe it in one word, that word would be "balance".

How can they fix undercutting in terms of crafters? Make at least 1 part of a rare recipe hard to get.
How can they fix undercutting in terms of Gathering? Well that one can be tricky

The thing here is there is a fine line between what SE can do and what is out of their control. Some things like making items rare to get SE can do. What is out of their control is how the players themselves price them. The more players to do gathering/crafting the more items of that nature will turn up in the market boards which will undercut.

Making a stable economy is hard to do when most of it is player related.

[Arasiel]

I don't see any notes or anything, where is this new Vanity Info?

[Espon]

I can't think of very many F2P games where vanity is free... at least for the good stuff.

[Naunet]

I can think of one, and only one way in which the "glamour" system is acceptable to me. Squeenix, I hope you're listening...

These mirage prisms? Whether they're crafted by DoH folk or not, they should be items similar to soulstones that we store in a new tab in the armoury (this part is important, as the key here is you can have multiple prisms, and no one's gonna want those taking up precious inventory space). So once you've got your mirage prism, you click on it and open up an interface similar to the character paperdoll, with all the gear slots available to you. Drag and drop the gear you want in there and it saves the look to that slot. Once you're done, you can equip the mirage prism into a new slot in your character pane to override your current look with the saved one you just created. Presto! An actually decent vanity system that, while perhaps a bit clunky, still works in a manner similar to wardrobe slots and doesn't have the annoyances that come with reskinning systems.

Please let this be how it works. x.x

[Vahlnir]

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That doesn't sound too bad in concept, but no one really knows anything about how it will work exactly. They said it would rely on crafting but didn't say to what extent.

[TohruHonda]

You wont need to level any crafts, just shout for a crafter or buy it already made. And we all know the price of this vanity gear is just going to plummet like everything else on the markets.

[Gramul]

God forbid crafting have any hint of relevance.
Jeez. And it's not even required.

This is a game where you can take any job you want to the max level and you're upset that it might require you to do something else just to look different? Hell, you might even be able to just request it from someone.

Double hell, it might just boil down to that crafters can make vanity looking gear at all.

[Zfz]

Yeah, the specifics are still behind closed doors.

However, one thing I think is relatively certain, is that a "filled prism" (to adopt the system Naunet described) will not be tradeable. If it is then people would be able to wear looks from gear they don't have. (E.g. I fill a prism with full Allagan iLv90 tanking set and sell it to someone who's never set foot in BC.)

My take on the system is that each prism holds the image of one piece of gear. All visible pieces in-game applicable to the glamour system (i.e. they can make certain pieces not applicable and always appear the way it is) would get a new "glamour slot". Anyone can insert a filled prism into a piece of gear, and anyone (or an NPC) can destroy the mirage prism on a piece of gear, but once that prism is used it can only be destroyed. This way prisms become a consumable like materia.

But anyway, 2.2 is not far off and I'd not be surprised if they have more details on the system for us in the next live letter.

[Arkghyom]

Finally crafters are getting some respect!

[Reyno]

Admittedly, not really looking forward to this myself. I really feel like being able to look the way you want should just be a given these days and not require some contrived system.

But I'll wait until we get details to judge.