The reason Summorer got Nerf, Maybe

[RegentP]

I offer complete respect to limited party kill feats, but was this the censuses of thinking on why they nerf'd SMN once again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pst9SM1U6Ms

[Alistaire]

What exactly does this have to do with enemies' ability to receive cures or smn's ability to res in pvp? Nothing.

Ifrit HM is basically 99% avoidable damage other than the tank and as long as they could build LB3 before nails all this means is these 2 know how to dodge, and the tank is well-geared.

[Earis_Gainsborough]

Yeah.... It's great that SMN is already kind of like "Oh you're a SMN, I rather a BLM" class already, soooo.. let's nerf them. If SMN can manage a 3 man on Garuda and Titan HM, sure, but those mechanics are way more hardcore than stupid Ifrit.. lol

God, I don't understand SE at all -- First they make their game issues server side so you can't just.. you know.. have no problems on client side like any other stupid MMO... LKSMFKLDMNF Now a nerf to a class (That I just level'd and enjoy. btw.. less than a week and a half old) SMN are already told they're trash DPS in comparison to MNK and BLM by parsers. Lol GG

[BrandoH]

God, I don't understand SE at all -- First they make their game issues server side so you can't just.. you know.. have no problems on client side like any other stupid MMO... LKSMFKLDMNF Now a nerf to a class (That I just level'd and enjoy. btw.. less than a week and a half old) SMN are already told they're trash DPS in comparison to MNK and BLM by parsers. Lol GG

You're an idiot. Did you even read the patch notes? They nerfed them in PVP, any changes are irrelevant in current endgame PVE (and all PVE before that, tbh).

And if a SMN is getting outdamaged by a BLM, they're really bad at their job. SMN is still top ranged DPS.

[NeoAmon]

God, I don't understand SE at all -- First they make their game issues server side so you can't just.. you know.. have no problems on client side like any other stupid MMO... LKSMFKLDMNF Now a nerf to a class (That I just level'd and enjoy. btw.. less than a week and a half old) SMN are already told they're trash DPS in comparison to MNK and BLM by parsers. Lol GG

I think we are playing a different game. That or you just need to l2p, no offence meant, but SMN can and will crush anyone on parsers on many fights. Only handful fights MNK shines above them and even fewer were BLM take the helm from them.

[Alistaire]

I think we are playing a different game. That or you just need to l2p, no offence meant, but SMN can and will crush anyone on parsers on many fights. Only handful fights MNK shines above them and even fewer were BLM take the helm from them.

She's not saying she does bad; she's saying she's been told the job is trash. I've heard it too. Doesn't mean they're right, but a nerf to a job that already had a bad rep can't be good.

Thing is, the nerf doesn't really affect PvE, and the job isn't trash. Just other people are stupid about it. And she's just saying this potentially gives those stupid people more things to misinterpret and be stupid about.

[Atreides]

Summoner got nerfed but imo they are still in a fine spot I don't think they are worse than BLM on parser.

[ZeroHigh]

Interesting vid, watched the whole thing XD. But it seemed more like a Scholar turned Summoner(maybe for relic purposes?), 600+ physicks and 900-1200 crit? My summoner crit physick, at best, is around 500-630 and thats being generous with my numbers lol, Unless the stat build and gear setup was awesome. I don't really know the math and numbers behind so I can't say for sure, but it was impressive, I love limited party kills, but it always makes me feel a bit derp, when you're in full parties who still can't complete it lol.

[Pesmergia]

I fail to see how a video where 99% of the casts are Physick, is a viable comparison to argue class balance on such an absurdly simple boss. Ifrit HM is a joke /thread

[Craiger]

I'm lost... What are you all talking about ?

SMN has the highest single target dps after MNK, and the latest nerf doesn't affect PvE at all...