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    MiNuN's Avatar
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    Azure Xanh
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    All I see is content nerfs.

    When I read this, the impression it gave me was just content nerfs because people find it too hard.

    I do not like this .

    Sure it took me three weeks to learn Titan Extreme, but now I can one-shot him weekly with no deaths.

    Nerfing content makes it less fun.

    any thoughts?
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    I'm of the opinion that your link didn't have anything to do with your argument.
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    Uh, you know that they had planned this all along, right? When the new content comes out, like you know, Turns 6-9, the old gets nerfed so people who couldn't do it before can now experience it.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Uh, you know that they had planned this all along, right? When the new content comes out, like you know, Turns 6-9, the old gets nerfed so people who couldn't do it before can now experience it.
    Exactly this.
    Yoshida deliver what he promised since the beta

    This is from an interview in september
    f; Lets go one more, you mentioned before that the difficulty will be eased over time, will this be done with new gears, or is the actually difficulty of the content going to be eased, how is this going to be done?
    y; We have quest instanced battles where you fight with NPC’s, once you die couple times you get a buff, it will be something like that. So once it’s eased, players will get protection from the crystal and get a buff which should make it easier.
    f; So as time passes it’s going to get easier and easier
    y; yes
    f; So it’s safe for the players to think that they will be able to go there one of these days?
    y; yes, it will be that way. We’re saying we’re going to expand on The Binding Coil of Bahamut but not being able to progress even before that isn’t good.
    y; I have said this every time but, FFXIV ARR just started and this Binding Coil of Bahamut is like a mountain in which no one have climbed before, as time goes on this mountain will have hills which makes it into more of a hiking course.
    y; Once at the top you’ll have another higher mountain, so those really into challenging will lead up front of everyone, while everyone else follow up later on through the hiking course.
    y; If you try to do too much ahead of everyone, you’re going to feel heart broken many times (because of the difficulty)
    y; Dev team’s heart broke so many times
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1322772

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    They have created different modes for primal fights, I wonder why they don't consider taking that route.

    Coil can work like, they release the (extreme mode) first, then come 2.2 they release the (story mode) version of it, but at least keeping the option to do that harder version of coil and maybe omit some loot between the two.

    In the current coil you can get the body, weapon and legs, but in story mode those pieces of loot are not obtainable unless you do the original version of coil.
    This is what they do in some way

    2.0
    Hard Mode: Coil 1-5

    2.2
    story Mode: Coil 1-5
    Hard Mode: Coil 6-9
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    Last edited by Felis; 01-26-2014 at 06:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Uh, you know that they had planned this all along, right? When the new content comes out, like you know, Turns 6-9, the old gets nerfed so people who couldn't do it before can now experience it.
    This is flawed logic though. There are going to be higher levels of gear avail even within the group game. So 1-5 will already be easier because people will start running around in Myth 2.0 gear they got by running duty roulettes. SO with ALSO nerfing the content everything is getting double nerfed.

    It's like giving everyone an extra 2k hp AND making fireballs on Twin do 1k dmg. If you do one the other isn't needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Uh, you know that they had planned this all along, right? When the new content comes out, like you know, Turns 6-9, the old gets nerfed so people who couldn't do it before can now experience it.
    What kind of garbage sense does that make?
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    you already beat it so what? I have no qualms about being first in line and moving on, while the stragglers get a crack at it.

    While they're finally experiencing what it's like to beat that content I'll be on T6+ and extreme Leviathan.
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    Dante Goldenpaws
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    you already beat it so what? I have no qualms about being first in line and moving on, while the stragglers get a crack at it.

    While they're finally experiencing what it's like to beat that content I'll be on T6+ and extreme Leviathan.
    You mean faceroll it. There's a difference between genuinely tackling present content and just roflstomping older stuff as it gets nerfed/players get buffed. All I can think of now is the rage myself and others felt when SE nerfed the crap out of Chains of Promathia.

    But that's just how MMOs are now these days. new content comes in, older content is rendered pointless and made easier so people can use it as ladder to get to the next new shinies. Why is this so attractive? Why has the genre devolved from being about enjoying the content to a never-ending shiny chase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    you already beat it so what? I have no qualms about being first in line and moving on, while the stragglers get a crack at it.

    While they're finally experiencing what it's like to beat that content I'll be on T6+ and extreme Leviathan.
    I agree partly with this, i for example didnt beat t5 yet, not because i tried but cant, but just because i did other things... Whenever i hit T5 i'd like it to be with the originial difficulty, but now that they announced a nerf, i have to race against time to beat it before they nerf it. a Better solution would be to have a nerf version while keeping the normal one up... That way I still have to option to do so even after 2.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    I agree partly with this, i for example didnt beat t5 yet, not because i tried but cant, but just because i did other things... Whenever i hit T5 i'd like it to be with the originial difficulty, but now that they announced a nerf, i have to race against time to beat it before they nerf it. a Better solution would be to have a nerf version while keeping the normal one up... That way I still have to option to do so even after 2.2.
    just click the buff away and enter it with equip not higher than average ilevel 90
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