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    Player
    Longelis's Avatar
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    Longelis Hanzare
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Worm View Post
    Yeah it wasn't a joke about your response just in response to the constant parading specter of horizontal progression you guys do. I hope if you finally get your ideal perfect MMO you've got a bunch of players who never shut up about permadeath.
    ...wow.
    The Self-righteous bitch tone in that reply was so thick, it'd take three seats on a bus.

    Anyhow, while I haven't done coil yet (Planning on doing it with a few friends, but we're all leveling together, playing catch up) I don't really disagree with the nerfs, but rather I wish they would just let the natural progression of player skill developing, as well as gear advancements balance things out gradually. After all, once they make Ilvl.255 gear or whatever in the future, you're still going to be able to do old LV.50 things with that Ilvl.255 gear, turning into a breeze fest anyways.
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    Taran Nos
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    you'll just have to show off your new gear instead of your old gear I know, it's rough.
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    Razzelmire's Avatar
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    Barachiel Shina
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Launch was August 27. That's 7 months.

    Also, from what SE has said, the only easing may be that you can wear higher iLevel gear (that maybe is only obtainable from turns 6+ or other highest-level new content anyway...), and a buff you might only get after a failed attempt, but that you can disable to experience the original difficulty.
    Please quote an official source on this.
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    Santori Zhonets
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Razzelmire View Post
    Please quote an official source on this.
    Launch: http://na.square-enix.com/us/games/f...v-realm-reborn
    Easing difficulty: Yoshi-P, Producer's Letter Live XII: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...1izocL3I#t=737
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    Last edited by ArkhamNative; 01-28-2014 at 05:10 AM.

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    Razzelmire's Avatar
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    Barachiel Shina
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    One other thing. For those saying we had 6+months no we did not. First, myself and many more, do not put 40+ hours a week into this game. I have a job and family. Next, you gotta spend time leveling to 50 (and doing it again with a 2nd class for Coil subs) and grind them to get geared after. You also need to find 7 other members that can consistently play in your time slot (mine is always late evenings CST) and work like clockwork together. If you are stuck using all PUGs it takes twice as long to get anything done and you are relying on pure luck at that point.

    Taking in all those factors, 6 months is not enough time. What ruined Coil?

    Lockouts. If this was never there Coil would not have caused toxicity in the community and breaking FCs apart as it has now.
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    Ciana Iezuborn
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    Cactuar
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Razzelmire View Post
    Lockouts. If this was never there Coil would not have caused toxicity in the community and breaking FCs apart as it has now.
    I keep hearing this statement and it just confuses me in general, what MMO raiding environment were all these people coming from that they've never had to deal with lockouts before?

    Quote Originally Posted by Razzelmire View Post
    One other thing. For those saying we had 6+months no we did not. First, myself and many more, do not put 40+ hours a week into this game. I have a job and family. Next, you gotta spend time leveling to 50 (and doing it again with a 2nd class for Coil subs) and grind them to get geared after. You also need to find 7 other members that can consistently play in your time slot (mine is always late evenings CST) and work like clockwork together. If you are stuck using all PUGs it takes twice as long to get anything done and you are relying on pure luck at that point.
    What are you even talking about, you don't have to play 40+ hours a week in this game to have downed Coil. That's ridiculous. When we were progressing on Coil we had 2 2 hour raid nights each week, then went up to 3 2 hour raid nights when we got to TT. This game has required the least amount of time for me in the raiding scene of any MMO I've played before, it's a big part of why I like it as I'm not committed to 12+ hours a week just on raiding.

    What you do need is a group of 8 people that can commit to regular attempts, even if it's only 2 times a week. Everything else falls into place after that.
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    Last edited by CianaIezuborn; 01-28-2014 at 05:10 AM.

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    Barachiel Shina
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Akirakogami View Post
    "I WANT ONLY ME AND MY 8 elitist friends to be able to play this game!!!"
    So increasing your game skills in a game is considered elitist? Wow. I did not know you endorsed this MMO to be made so 4 year olds can win with ease.
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    Barachiel Shina
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    (Sorry this 1000 character limit is annoying)

    I am not even putting into consideration the time one also puts into crafts, field, Beastmen quests, maxing myth tomes, and primal battles. If I ignored all of these maybe I can finally finish Coil as it is but why such a huge sacrifice?
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    Alona Tal
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    Goblin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Razzelmire View Post
    I am not even putting into consideration the time one also puts into crafts, field, Beast quests, [etc]. If I ignored all of these maybe I can finally finish Coil as it is but why such a huge sacrifice?
    I'm sorry but I think you're the first person I've heard of complaining that there is TOO MUCH content...

    1. Beast quests, crafting, etc. will all be there post 2.2, so not really a sacrifice
    2. Pugs and FC growth are not the only paths to Coil, there is a middle ground. Ally with another FC for the sake of Raids. I've done it and it's worked out beautifully. We have players from nearly every timezone in the US and we make it work
    3. I put in far less than 40+ hours a week, I choose my battles. Coil is something I really want to complete so I've stopped/reduced my time in other areas.
    4. 1000 char limit is annoying 2000 would be better.
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    Pyretta_Blaze's Avatar
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    Hazel Meade
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 51
    I expected and welcomed it but I do think it is too soon.
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