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    Buklohn's Avatar
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    Reis Falz
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    Lancer Lv 50

    More TP for disciples of war

    no I am not proposing more TP for DPS purposes of spamming combos and stuff, what i am proposing is a reserve TP bar or something that allows Disciple of war to sprint in dungeons and raids and can only be used for sprinting and not attacking. Its kind of unfair that disciples of magic can sprint in dungeons and not worry about their source to attack being emptied.

    It just a proposal, what are your guy's thoughts?
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    saber_alter's Avatar
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    i would rather tp regen items be more available to PVE, and invigorate get a shorter CD.
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    Player Mogi's Avatar
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    Aria Tsuki
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    A BRD can use there music for speed and adding more tb just make them attack more then they do all ready maybe add some sort of speed skill for LANCER and tank?
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogi View Post
    A BRD can use there music for speed and adding more tb just make them attack more then they do all ready maybe add some sort of speed skill for LANCER and tank?
    You can't use Switftsong for faster movement during battle.
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    Player Mogi's Avatar
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    Aria Tsuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    You can't use Switftsong for faster movement during battle.
    Yes but the op say to
    to sprint in dungeons not to move fast when fighting so that's why i was using BRD
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogi View Post
    Yes but the op say to
    to sprint in dungeons not to move fast when fighting so that's why i was using BRD
    I don't understand you at all. How is this even related to BRD? LOL!

    Long story short, OP wants to have TP classes to be able to use Sprint without compromising their TP just like how MP classes can use it without worrying about their TP.
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    Kai Faelan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Or at least the ability for others to see the TP bar. I'm tired of getting chewed out for not attacking or whatnot when I'm waiting for tp regen. I'll explain it and some people still don't get it. But I guess people that ignorant wouldn't bothering looking to see your tp bar is empty anyways.

    *le sigh*
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    Brett Schilleriana
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I would think that adding some form of reserve TP specifically for sprinting would defeat the purpose of having Sprint use TP. If they were going to change Sprint, I would think they would just remove the TP cost and leave it with a cooldown.

    As for it being unfair...I don't think we should go there.
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Uh.. movement speed is a HUGE deal. Some attacks are timed to where you have less than half a second to react and get out or you get hit. Being able to sprint gives you much more room for error.

    Monk's first of the wind makes a tremendous difference too. If any monks have trouble dodging Titan's aoes. Use wind till heart.
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    Aicasia Corazon
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Uh.. movement speed is a HUGE deal. Some attacks are timed to where you have less than half a second to react and get out or you get hit. Being able to sprint gives you much more room for error.

    Monk's first of the wind makes a tremendous difference too. If any monks have trouble dodging Titan's aoes. Use wind till heart.
    I think you missed the core of my post, and that is that you need to move regardless. Sprint doesn't actually kick in right away, it takes roughly half a second to actually give you the speed boost making your point there kind of moot as by the time it kicked in, you would have either reacted, or doomed yourself to being hit.

    However I am not bringing the greatness of move speed under scrutiny, I am saying that your argument is fallacious. It's not actually anything like that.

    Again, going along with it the only class/Job actually major hurt by having to move is THM/BLM, but every caster gets the benefit. As well, Fists of Wind is not sprint. It is a pretty severe damage loss, and is not available to DRG. I'm not here to argue the effectiveness of any class, but it is unfair. Arguing it is kind of silly, it's blatantly obvious that it is unfair. There is no counterbalance taking place, all sprint using TP does is make it a non-option for melee ever unless it's toward the end of the fight and they have invigorate, or they need to live, but be as useful as a dead player for the next 20 seconds roughly.

    BLM has umbral ice, WHM has shroud, and there are X-ethers, as well as elixirs. Melee gets a single song and natural regen, which isn't very high, to replenish their main resource. The only TP regen items are PvP only, so explain to me how this balances out?

    I'm open to logic here, but your argument so far holds none of that. I'm not trying to be rude, so if it comes off as that I'm sorry. However the logic behind your defense of the system is very weak when you look at everything together.
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    Last edited by Aicasia; 01-26-2014 at 04:27 PM.

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