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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    This. I hate it when so many main tanks in King behemoth in CT wait until the animation is completely over to even budge, you can go as soon as the cast bar is done and the animation has started for christs sake. I noticed this in the beta when seeing a gif someone put on the forums of a player being in an aoe's animation and not getting hit, it works the same way for every single red aoe in the game.
    Which is the best way, especially with melee DPS, get out the red, whilst the anim is running, ran back in front. mob/boss doesn't move as anim locked so melee can keep their dance going uninterrupted. Drove me crazy trying to melee mobs that tanks where spinning like a top >.<
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    Seirra_Lanzce's Avatar
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Your ISP is having ROUTING problems, SE doesnt pay your ISP to route properly
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    Jesse Branford
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    Your ISP is having ROUTING problems, SE doesnt pay your ISP to route properly
    Stop with these dumb posts please. Every other MMORPG on the market can do it without problems. It is ridiculous that people have to pay for a VPN just to play this game smoothly.
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Stop with these dumb posts please. Every other MMORPG on the market can do it without problems. It is ridiculous that people have to pay for a VPN just to play this game smoothly.
    REALITY CHECK! get a VPN if its WORKS, your ISP has ROUTING PROBLEM.

    If you dont belive such things, then you never know how VPNworks in the first place.
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    DeceptionsWrath's Avatar
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    Anita Rathkamp
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    REALITY CHECK! get a VPN if its WORKS, your ISP has ROUTING PROBLEM.

    If you dont belive such things, then you never know how VPNworks in the first place.
    Since you seem to know all about this kind of stuff, can you please tell us why other MMO's don't have this so called "ROUTING PROBLEM"? I have played 4 other MMO's and never had this kind of problem till FFXIV:ARR. That's the part i really don't understand. It seems something between my ISP and SEs servers just do not mesh well or something. Now, i'm not saying it's all SE's fault, but the game has many fights that are very tough with these conditions. I can't very well order my ISP to go through and route stuff differently, they simple won't. So SE is going to have to find some way to try and resolve this issue or continue to lose subscribers.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath View Post
    Since you seem to know all about this kind of stuff, can you please tell us why other MMO's don't have this so called "ROUTING PROBLEM"? I have played 4 other MMO's and never had this kind of problem till FFXIV:ARR. That's the part i really don't understand. It seems something between my ISP and SEs servers just do not mesh well or something. Now, i'm not saying it's all SE's fault, but the game has many fights that are very tough with these conditions. I can't very well order my ISP to go through and route stuff differently, they simple won't. So SE is going to have to find some way to try and resolve this issue or continue to lose subscribers.
    Actually, they have. Play MMOs long enough and you'll see others or even yourself have had the problems at some time or another. I've played many MMOs over the years where a group or groups of people had massive issues for a while, some couldn't even connect and play at all. All due to the route their connection took. And nothing could be done til the owner of the router did something.
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    Square Pusher
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    REALITY CHECK! get a VPN if its WORKS, your ISP has ROUTING PROBLEM.

    If you dont belive such things, then you never know how VPNworks in the first place.

    reality check! most games are resistant to ISP routing "problems".
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    Uldah (i picked Limsa Lominsa by mistake at phase 4!)
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    Undie Nilleshna
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    REALITY CHECK! get a VPN if its WORKS, your ISP has ROUTING PROBLEM.

    If you dont belive such things, then you never know how VPNworks in the first place.
    Reality check, i paid out for a VPN, the problem still exists. The problem lies wholly with SE... Im sick and tired of players who dont have this problem being condescending to others. Its enough of a problem to warrant investigating.
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    "Your former glories and all the stories, dragged and washed with eager hands..but oh your city lies in dust my friend!"

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    Reivur Arygris
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    All things said, I'm not fond of animation not being the hit confirm. It feels rather strange for the warning to be the real attack rather than what visually hits you in the face. I also feel as though animation-delay skills could have a place in the game but the skills they put them on make no sense-- like Hallowed Ground and Benediction which are meant to be "Oh crap!" buttons. I see enough WHM's dance the twirl of death and go "ugh Benediction" as the heal blankets a Tank's corpse. It really doesn't feel satisfying.

    But on the other hand when you know about the pattern and observe it you really can't keep blaming it for your problems if you don't adapt to it. You can hate it.
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    KogaDrake's Avatar
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    Koga Dragontaker
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 60
    its very simple, FFXIV every check is done on the server. when the cast ends, where the server thinks you are is how it calculates if you are hit or not. It does not matter what you see on your screen, if your updated position has not hit the server (ISP lag or w/e other reason may slow it down) you get hit. WoW does these checks on the client and then passes to the server if you were hit, making what you see what happens. The client side checks are nicer for the gamer, but are susceptible to hacking to say you evaded wen you didn't. SE took the easy path of making the server do it to ensure this can not happen, and it has its downsides.
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