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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    You do understand that for bots they need to investigate the issue to ensure innocent players don't get banned, whereas offensive language is easy to investigate, they pull up the chat logs of the player in question.

    Also we aren't talking about the F word, we are talking about the homophobic language apparently used by the OP.
    I'm sorry, where did the OP say that? The only post I saw on that was by a 3rd party who "knows the player" and supposedly "saw some screenshots". Like I said, willing to believe the other person is completely innocent but slamming the OP over something you have no personal knowledge or evidence of, yet none of you see the hypocrisy here.

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  2. #62
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    I'm still missing the fact that your saying the guy was a bot, but he was clearly playing his game because he was offended by your language towards him and reported you.


    Iirc doesn't Botting involve starting a program and walking away? Your lack of details is overwhelming. I don't know this guy, yet you assume I do. Please explain more.
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  3. #63
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    I say free for all cursing and swearing to out hearts content, I wanna be able to yell at people in the most offensive language possible! >:O
    If I can't do that then why the hell am I paying a monthly sub!!! D:<

    Oh another note, after several post from Kiroh, I'm starting to think he doesn't actually love these forums.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radxen View Post
    I say free for all cursing and swearing to out hearts content, I wanna be able to yell at people in the most offensive language possible! >:O
    If I can't do that then why the hell am I paying a monthly sub!!! D:<

    Oh another note, after several post from Kiroh, I'm starting to think he doesn't actually love these forums.
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    Whaa? How you you even say that? I love these forums. I absolutely adore these forums.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    A sub is a sub right, just look at all those unpunished bots in 1.0, they practically funded ARR too.
    The only botting that happened in 1.0 is a certain big name LS using bots to avoid Ifrit Extreme damage and gathering/crafting bots before SE added Auto-Synthesis. People who hacked got punished once ARR landed as you may have forgotten but quite a bit of people wondered why they were banned once ARR went live lol.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Except the term in question is a derogatory term for a male homosexual, you might say it out of hate, and inadvertently really offend someone which is why this kind of language shouldn't be used, it's like throwing around racial slur, then trying to defend yourself saying "How did I know you were from xxx minority" would you do that? Probably not then why should derogatory homophobic terms be thrown around in the same manner?
    Word usage and meaning change over time. While yes that term is often utilized to be derogatory against a particular group of people, just as often online it is used to indicate that the person is stupid or a loser. ( I can already read the comments in regards to this statement). I myself often use ii in this way: Man you are such a ..., meaning you are an idiot, or another word, man that was gay; meaning that was stupid. The only way that phrase was an actual insult towards that group of people is if the speaker knows that the target is part of that group. Other wise the meaning is different. I should not have to say this but, just because the meaning of phrases or words can mean a group of people or idiot, loser, stupid, dumb, does not mean that the other definition applies to that same group. People who think otherwise are just looking for a battle. To illustrate, just because the word gay means same sex orientation, and it is used to mean stupid, does not mean people who are gay are stupid.

    People are free to interpret the meanings of words in the most literal sense, but that does not mean the true interpretation of the statement is that. To jump to the worst case scenario shows a lot.

    Honestly this thread has served its purpose. What started as a complaint about SE's approach to bots turned into an attack on the OP for unsubstantiated statements. Regardless even if they were actually said by him, this thread had no business turning into an LGBT issue seeing as there was never one to begin with.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    You keep saying the other player is a bot repeatedly but you don't explain why you're certain it's a bot.
    Explain why it's a bot rather than "everyone knows it's a bot".
    I have screenshots of him teleporting around in the PvP arena. Reported him based on that too.. still have the screenshots handy.
    It looks almost like lag, but he'll get pushed back by an ability and split second later he's back on his target.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsurupettan View Post
    I know the player you are referring to personally and he shared some screenshots with me.

    You may have left out some vital details. You say "aggressive language," the screenshots say something that rhymes with "mucking maggot." He actually is a gay male who is terrified of coming out, so great job. I dont know what caused you to use such hateful language, but i do know its not the first time you have been verbally hostile towards him.

    Was it his all pink armor that caused your disgusting outburst? You should know he undyed it so he doesnt have to face the same kind of intolerance in-game as he does in school.

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    Oh, I'm not exactly complaining about me be reprimanded. I was just angry in a fit of rage spouted stupid things which we all do.
    What I am not happy about, however, is that your so-called "friend" is a bot. He hacks FFXIV and therefore doesn't deserve playing this game which I actually enjoy.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke View Post
    I have screenshots of him teleporting around in the PvP arena. Reported him based on that too.. still have the screenshots handy.
    It looks almost like lag, but he'll get pushed back by an ability and split second later he's back on his target.
    I suggest capturing video next time instead of taking still pictures, that you can send to SE as proof. That would more readily support your position that the other player is cheating in some way.
    That said, investigating botting/hacking claims takes more time as more evidence and analysis is necessary compared to harassment claims.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuke View Post
    I have screenshots of him teleporting around in the PvP arena. Reported him based on that too.. still have the screenshots handy.
    It looks almost like lag, but he'll get pushed back by an ability and split second later he's back on his target.
    How the hail is a screenshot going to prove teleporting LOL. I'm sorry, but you gotta do better than that.
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