WAR > PLD

[BlackRosesXIV]

I normally use provoke initially because there is always at least one or two impatient DPS who throw out a nuke before aggro has been well established. When tanking a single mob that doesn't involve switching between tanks, I shouldn't have to use provoke at all, which is why I dont mind tossing it out initially and waiting for its CD. Also, IIRC Provoke is not on the same GCD as the rest of my abilities. So it generally just buys me a few seconds to get my first RoH combo off without losing aggro immediately.

[whiskeybravo]

I normally use provoke initially because there is always at least one or two impatient DPS who throw out a nuke before aggro has been well established. When tanking a single mob that doesn't involve switching between tanks, I shouldn't have to use provoke at all, which is why I dont mind tossing it out initially and waiting for its CD. Also, IIRC Provoke is not on the same GCD as the rest of my abilities. So it generally just buys me a few seconds to get my first RoH combo off without losing aggro immediately.

Those are not valid points for using Provoke lol. It's +1 enmity, which isn't building any sort of hate whatsoever. Literally sneezing on the mob is going to build more enmity than Provoke (it's intended use is solely stealing hate back if you lose it, and tank swaps obviously)

[BlackRosesXIV]

Those are not valid points for using Provoke lol. It's +1 enmity, which isn't building any sort of hate whatsoever. Literally sneezing on the mob is going to build more enmity than Provoke (it's intended use is solely stealing hate back if you lose it, and tank swaps obviously)

Ok, i realize the behavior of Provoke in XIV is much different than was in XI. But to make sure I understand...

Me: Shield Lob > <t>
BLM: Fire III <t> (now has aggro)
Me: Provoke <t> (now I have aggro)

This is not accurate? Again I use provoke when I raid because there is always some noob prematurely nuking... Not routinely, for instance, when I do coil with my static...

[zakalw3]

Ok, i realize the behavior of Provoke in XIV is much different than was in XI. But to make sure I understand...

Me: Shield Lob > <t>
BLM: Fire III <t> (now has aggro)
Me: Provoke <t> (now I have aggro)

This is not accurate? Again I use provoke when I raid because there is always some noob prematurely nuking... Not routinely, for instance, when I do coil with my static...

This is accurate sometimes yes, and it's fine. You use provoke as you need to to regain control. That's what it's there for.

Point still stands: there's nothing I can do that you cannot, and I don't have this issue, so unless you're being outgeared it's something to do with the efficiency of your rotation.