WAR > PLD

[Kyana]

Clearly you've never played WAR. All the time I have to deal with PLD's spamming their one combo ripping threat off me when I MT because I'm trying to maintain my buffs/debuffs. It goes both ways, it's not so much a "This job vs that job" argument as a bad tanks unable to maintain their threat. Honestly when I OT I never rip threat off because I just use my other 2 combos to help DPS/debuff the enemy.

Pretty much this.

If not maintanking I could spam hate combo all day long and would grab aggro for sure. Even easier if I keep Defiance or Shield Oath up.
Or, I could deactivate Defiance or switch to Sword Oath and help debuffing the mob or cast SS on the MT or other important or weakened party members.

Now, if I grab aggro without Defiance or Shield Oath and without spamming hate combo or other hate generating abilities, then the other tank is bad.

[abzoluut]

You're just a bad PLD, sry to be so blunt.

[Abigs]

You're just a bad PLD, sry to be so blunt.

he doesnt even have a 50 PLD or WAR for that matter..

[BlackRosesXIV]

Well, damn. This community just shows it's true colors more and more, day by day.
You say I'm a bad PLD. Perhaps... I'm legitimately trying to understand the mechanics here. For the record my Avg. iLvl right now is 80.
Let's use iLvl 80, and CT as baselines for these comparisons.
As a paladin, entering a boss battle:

1. Shield Toss to 'tag'
2. Provoke
3. Flash
4. Fast Blade > Savage Blade > Rage of Halone

First Skill used is Rampart, then cycle Convalescence, Bulwark, and Sentinel.
Aside from that I'm spamming my aggro combo. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's not much more to it than that as far as a single mob battle goes.
What I'm talking about, specifically, is while going through this rotation (above) a WAR can come and within 5 seconds has out-aggro'd me. Even when there's clearly no need for it.

Telling me "i'm doing it wrong" is pretty retarded considering the cookie cutter nature of this game.

[zakalw3]

Telling me "i'm doing it wrong" is pretty retarded considering the cookie cutter nature of this game.

If you're keeping up your rotations efficiently, the only way a warrior is going to peel aggro from you easily is if they out gear you, otherwise it's pretty much neck and neck.

You either didn't notice the WAR's gear or you wee not being efficient with you rotations.

[whiskeybravo]

Telling me "i'm doing it wrong" is pretty retarded considering the cookie cutter nature of this game.

You shouldn't really be using Provoke at all unless you lose aggro entirely. It does not build any hate, it just puts you +1 enmity above the leader which is nothing if you are the leader, and not much at all if you aren't.

I'm Warrior main but concept is the same for ST pulls: Use Fight or Flight>Shield Lob>RoH Combo. Flash isn't going to build a ton of hate, so it's almost wasting a GCD compared to a War who will not be using it. It's probably better to use Flash after RoH combo, but mainly use it for the damage mitigation not ST threat.

[BlackRosesXIV]

I normally use provoke initially because there is always at least one or two impatient DPS who throw out a nuke before aggro has been well established. When tanking a single mob that doesn't involve switching between tanks, I shouldn't have to use provoke at all, which is why I dont mind tossing it out initially and waiting for its CD. Also, IIRC Provoke is not on the same GCD as the rest of my abilities. So it generally just buys me a few seconds to get my first RoH combo off without losing aggro immediately.

[BlackRosesXIV]

You're just a bad PLD, sry to be so blunt.

Cool story bro.

[abzoluut]

Cool story bro.

Your story was way cooler, you should tell us again!

Could you also tell us why you adjusted (read deleted) your initial post? xD

Did you figure out how provoke actually works? I could help you.

[Rockaholic]

Great a another kid from wow, trolling in ff14 forums