I want to know what a non casual game is!

[Blunx]

Pretty simple, tell me! I have played WoW (4yrs?), FF11, SWTOR, some GW...and from what I am told, all are pretty casual.

[Holyhunter]

Look at the one thing those all have in common

[Magis]

Pretty simple, tell me! I have played WoW (4yrs?), FF11, SWTOR, some GW...and from what I am told, all are pretty casual.

When did you play FF11?

[Gramul]

Have you tried NES games?

I have no clue...fun?

I'll give you a clue: It starts with an M-...They're MMO's.

[Blunx]

Look at the one thing those all have in common

I have no clue...fun?

[Codek]

Day-Z!

/10char

[Blunx]

When did you play FF11?

when it dropped on 360...played for like 6months (actually my first mmo)

[rabbitzero]

The only true hardcore i've ever come across is in DDO, with people who play strict perma-death. it's self imposed, nothing forced on others, but if their character dies, they delete them and all the gear. Yes, even if "killed by lag". They also can't buy gear on the AH, only use what drops for them. That's about as hardcore as i've seen.

EvE might be thought so, but meh, never really found it that hardcore, just annoying. You also won't see many games focusing on hardcore players, as that isn't where money is, regardless of what the hardcore people think.

[odintius]

Pretty much all those now could be consider console games slap on mulitplayer because pretty much solo everything and I personally suggest changing MMO genre to MMOC (C= casual) or MMOT (T=Themepark) because thats either what they have became or was released as.

[Holyhunter]

Have you tried NES games?

I'll give you a clue: It starts with an M-...They're MMO's.

More specifically, themepark MMOs

you aren't going to find non casual games here