I want to know what a non casual game is!

[Mudcat]

I'm of the opinion that the casual/hardcore distinction is no more than a false dichotomy. I've played FF xi for seven years as a casual hardcore and never suffered from it, as have a majority of other players I've known there. And I have only known a mere handful that could be called 'Hardcore'. The majority of game play considered to be 'Hardcore' is the kind of repetitive tedium I would term 'unfun' in polite company.

That's just my 2 gil, though.

[Senfei]

EVE Online can be very punishing, but I wouldn't call it hardcore. It mostly just promotes a very risk-averse playstyle, all the while calling anyone who isn't risk-averse a newb and murderballing them while stealing their stuff... and then splitting it with the other 18 people who helped you kill one person.

[Marxam]

Demon/Dark souls series would be what I call "Hardcore" game as it clearly caters to an experienced gaming crowd who enjoy online pve/pvp, immersive story and lore and a deep battle system with tons of customization. This game literally says "Yeah I'm so hard so what? deal with it!" I already have the CE edition pre-ordered and I'm currently debating if I should continue playing FFXIV on the side or just stop entirely when DS2 comes out.

[Ricky]

Try "Don't Starve" on PC/Chrome, you will probably rage quit

[HeroSamson]

Depends easy content Casuals but some easy content has something hard about it making it half and half.

Then you have Hard content where casuals learn to become better at things which improves their game play.

I guess you can say all MMO is casual at the start but trains people to be better to step out of the casual area.

A MMO that was easy? diablo 2.